Hino 4x4

[haven]

Hino is Toyota's subsidiary that makes truck and bus chassis. Several are available with 4x4 in Australia, but only the RWD models are imported to USA.

Australian members, please share your impressions of Hino, compared to Mitsubishi and Isuzu. I know the Hino 500 model pictured above is in a heavier class than the Canter.

 

[John E Davies]

Hino 4x4 section at Hino Australia has some informative specification brochures here: ... http://www.hino.com.au/models_4x4_specification.aspx?subTabID=4&TabID=3

"Key Features

Selectable 4 wheel drive
Selectable low range ratio 2.224:1
1st gear ratio 13.5:1
Power rating 152 kW ISO Net
Torque rating 608 Nm ISO Net
GVM from 10,000 to 13,000 kg"

I'm sure they get the job done! Why can't we get these neat trucks here?

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

 

[bptp7270]

Our local electricity company uses these and they are a big truck. I think that they are similar in size to the Isuzu FS550.

 

[SkiFreak]

As has already been mentioned, these trucks are quite large. Comparing it to a Fuso... it's more the size of a Fighter rather than a Canter.
If you were building something big, like a GXV style vehicle, I guess that it would make for a nice base, but this does not fit into the category of "light truck", like the Isuzu NPS or Fuso FG.

 

[Overland Hadley]

As has already been mentioned, these trucks are quite large. Comparing it to a Fuso... it's more the size of a Fighter rather than a Canter.
If you were building something big, like a GXV style vehicle, I guess that it would make for a nice base, but this does not fit into the category of "light truck", like the Isuzu NPS or Fuso FG.

Is this true for the Hino 300 as well?

 

[Overland Hadley]

What, if any, would be the advantage of a Hino over a Fuso?

 

[bptp7270]

The Hino 300 would probably be a nice truck, but unfortunately they don't make a 4x4 version. There were some Toyota Dyna 4x4's floating around a few years ago which I think are the predecesor to the Hino 300 series. I don't know about advantages of one make over another, but more choice is always good. Isuzu also have a smaller truck, the NLS200 that has single range 4x4 and a torsion bar front end. I think the current Canter only has singe range.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Chip,

We've only only done one build on this chassis so our experience is somewhat limited at this point but first impressions are good. Being from the Toyota family what else would you expect. They are certainly a much bigger thing than the Isuzu NPS or Fuso FG .... well technically they are twice as big with a GVM of 13 ton compared to 6.5 ton for the current model FG and NPS.

They are also pretty good value for money compared to the competition in that GVM and power range .... the closest one being the Isuzu FTS 800. Pete mentioned the similarity to the FSS 550 but these are only 10 ton GVM and run the little 5.2 four cylinder while Hino only bring out the one 4x4 model and as an option can derate that from 13 to 10 ton. Actually I believe they market the GT500 4x4 as 2 different models (GT 10/22 and GT 13/22) but they are still the same spec and chassis....same as Isuzu do with the NPS 300 and 250 which are again the same spec but different GVM rating. If you are interested Isuzu have 4 seperate 4x4 chassis.

Also the GT 13 / 22 is available with two different wheelbase lengths. The build we did recently was done on the GT 13/22 Long and was a tour bus for Fraser Island ..... so far it is doing the job asked of it. The only mods we really did for the truck were a single wheel conversion and tyre inflation system to speed up the airing down proces. I've driven it plenty of times and the motor still felt very tight which I guess will unleash more power as it frees up....... great brakes and transmission but the suspension would certainly need some softening up to give the sort of comfort that you would expect in an expedition truck.

Hey were you at OvEx??

Kind regards John.

 

[Amesz00]

Hino only bring out the one 4x4 model and as an option can derate that from 13 to 10 ton. Actually I believe they market the GT500 4x4 as 2 different models (GT 10/22 and GT 13/22) but they are still the same spec and chassis..

Not sure where you got that from John.. they are in fact two completely different trucks. just looking at the respective spec sheets at the moment,the engine is the same, but appears to have different torque ratings (1022 is 608nm, 1322 is 637). interestingly the 1322 has lower compression at 17:1 vs 1022 at 18.5. maybe the 1322 runs more boost i wonder?.. the gearbox + Tcase are the same. but both axles on the 1322 are heavier 4.7t + 9.2t vs the 1022 at 3.7t + 7t front, rear. the frame on the 13t is a bit bigger + thicker as well. as a side note (according to the spec sheet) the 1022 has 305mm clearance under rear diff (not too bad for a hypoid on 9.00R20s) and the 1322 has 240mm.

have never driven one so have no 1st hand experience there. (hope they drive/feel nicer than the FTS isuzu though...)
Andrew

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Andrew,

Yeah, OK. Came from our Hino dealer cause I asked about the new 1322 and he told me if we wanted a smaller unit they simply derate the 1322 to 1022. He also explained the '"22" part was the horsepower (although it isn't quite 220hp is it?) so I thought that fell into line with the 1022 and the same engine. We would have preferred the the 1022 if it was cheaper and lighter as the 13 was an overkill.....I better quiz him tomorrow I guess. Maybe the 1322 is the only model they are importing for 2012. Sorry for posting that then if it's wrong.

 

[Amesz00]

All good, my spec sheet is from last year i think. it may be very possible that they canned the 1022 and now sell a de-rated 13t.. i think it would be the same deal as with MAN and the 10.220. beautiful vehicle and just that bit more compact for a large truck, but unfortunetly not very commercially viable so MAN ditched it in the TGM range, now all you can get is a 13.280
btw speaking of 10.220, there is a beat up crewcab one nearby in a mine/drilling yard.. im thinking of seeing what they want for it, as its been sitting there for over 4 months, and doesnt look worth the time for a mine company to fix up.. have to see if the dad is interested in a project. ive got too many truck build projects as it is.... in my opinion though the late model L2000 10.220 is probly MAN's pinnacle of offroad vehicles- powerful, comfortable and modern looking with awesome offroad spec, but not too electronically complex to be a reliable bush truck.
Andrew

 

[whatcharterboat]

All good, my spec sheet is from last year i think. it may be very possible that they canned the 1022 and now sell a de-rated 13t.

Yeah...I think that's it.

btw speaking of 10.220, there is a beat up crewcab one nearby in a mine/drilling yard.. im thinking of seeing what they want for it, as its been sitting there for over 4 months, and doesnt look worth the time for a mine company to fix up

If you get any pics, PM me...I always a sucker for a "project".....especially Euro trash. Lol.

 

[dhackney]

Here's a sample of a regular cab version of the MAN they are referring to:









That truck is from Germany and the guy bought it for an expedition vehicle build. English translation of his page is here: http://translate.google.com/transla...tp://www.expeditionsmobil.eu/fahrgestell.html

German page is here: http://www.expeditionsmobil.eu/fahrgestell.html

 

[Amesz00]

Thanks Doug, thats one of them. i managed to find a pic floatin on me computer of dads 10.220, coming back from Alice Springs. think this was 2008.

Andrew

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi Doug,

Thanks for posting those........I 'll bet you a couple of those rib eye steaks we had that Andrew's pics (of that crewcab) don't show a pristine looking chassis like this though!!!