Very High Quality Molded Expedition Cabin

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
NEWER EDIT: The shell's gone to a local ExPo member. See the 8/06/09 post below.

EDIT 5/31/09: The shell's going to stay here, probably serving as a backyard guest cottage to get it out of storage. Thanks for the interest.


Mikey's Prepackaged Instant Overlanding Vehicle . . . Just add truck. :sombrero:


It's looking like the EarthRoamer Jeep is not going anywhere, so here's another offering to free me up some space.

I have a close-to-unique fiberglass expedition cabin that has been around for years waiting for me to do something with it. The shell is very thick, 1.50 inches for the bottom half and 1.25 for the top and molded of cored fiberglass the same way as yacht hulls. My guess (untested ;) ) is that this shell could stand up to being rolled. No one quite knows what it weights; the guess is 1500 pounds, but it could be as much as 500 pounds more or less.

Safari Vehicles Manufacturing, the former Richmond, BC expedition vehicle manufacturer, only molded three. This white one is the one the president of Safari Vehicle Manufacturing finished off for his own use and mounted on a U140L Unimog:

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and the other two are in the Portland area, the green one I have and there's a raw white one I sold to a fellow Unimogger a couple years back. It cost SVM something better than $25K for the raw shells themselves--probably one reason why they only made three before switching to NidaCore--with the price of the finished shell on a U140L being something better than $200K almost ten years ago. So you can see why I thought it'd be a good idea to grab one to make into a rugged go-anywhere overlander.

The opportunity to get this one came up when SVM closed and the shell ended up at a BC Mog dealer. Unfortunately, they stripped the appliances and then, through carelessness, the door was left open and a year or two worth of winter weather got into the cabin, causing the wood parts to become stained and mildewed and ruining the less waterproof parts. After getting a lead from a Unimogger, I bought it and had it shipped to Portland. Now, after paying to move it around and store it for several years, it'd be nice if it got finished off, put on a truck and put to good use (and not coincidentally, out of my way).

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As you can see, there are molded-in wheel wells at the midway point of the camper. If you mount this on a long-bed pickup (something with a cab-to-axle of 60-64"), the wheel wheels will pair up with the truck's. But if you wanted to mount the shell on a flatbed or bare frame, you could leave 'em be or else glass in the wheel wells--which isn't a bad idea, since you could turn them into tanks--and put it anywhere. (The wheel wells are mostly for looks; it'd be an unusual big truck that would use the space for articulation once the camper was mounted on a subframe.)

Not that ya'll need engineering help, but I've been screwing around with this for six years now, so I've thought of about every alternative. If you look at the photo gallery link below, there are photos/diagrams with very detailed measurements, as well as a number of quick-and-dirty side views of the shell mounted on a variety of chassis.

One nice feature is that it has a completed (undamaged) shower room with a Thetford cassette toilet, a vent fan and shower head and valves. There's also a fair amount (about 75% maybe) of the plumbing and wiring already done. And all of the wood parts are included, so if you wanted to replicate the Safari floorplan, the wood pieces can serve as templates and you could rebuild the cabinets that need redone very quickly. (Alternately, you could paint the wood pieces; they're not rotted or anything, just stained and mildewed.) Another nice thing is that I bought all-new Seitz double-pane windows with the blind-screen cassettes, so making the shell weatherproof wouldn't take but an afterrnoon and a couple tubes of Sikaflex.

Check here for some additional pictures and the measurements:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mhiscox01/SVMShells

and if you read the captions, there's some useful information about the shell's current condition.

If you like the original layout, it'd be pretty easy to finish it off. But even if you gut it and do your own layout, you'll have a really fine piece without the extremely substantial effort of building a cabin this solid. It might even be something someone'd want to buy for resale; a decade ago Safari had a plan to get $140K for the finished shells mounted on F350s. (And, FWIW, the shell is almost exactly the same size as the body on a quarter-million dollar EarthRoamer XV-LT without the cabover extension.)

I've got a small fortune in this, much of it the result of renting it storage spaces and paying a rollback wrecker to move it around. Beyond that, though, I've got $7K in it. How about $3,000 even to someone from the Portal (and that includes $1,500 of new Seitz windows) assuming you can come and fetch it in the next few weeks. Interested persons anywhere near Portland should arrange to come and see it.

If you're interested--and I hope you are--let me know ASAP, by posting here or PM'ing me, what questions you have and whether you'd like some photos posted of some specific area(s) of the shell.
 
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Terrainist

Explorer
Wow. Someone is going to snatch this up!

Any chance you can post the "quick and dirty side views" you mentioned? I tried to access the photo link, couldn't get it to work thru Safari or Explorer.

Don't get too twisted about it though because I'm just dreaming right now.

Thanks...wow!
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
Any chance you can post the "quick and dirty side views" you mentioned? I tried to access the photo link, couldn't get it to work thru Safari or Explorer.
Anyone else having trouble with the link to the Picasa gallery? Worked for me when I just clicked it.

Anyway, here are some examples:

The most likely . . . 'Muricun one-ton SRW longbed pickup with bed off, or a 60" CA cab-and-chassis truck:

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A Fuso FG (with a 48" surplus truck sleeper--$1K at the Freightliner surplus store up the road--so you could have a small cabin if you made the shell easy on-off if you wanted to carry bikes or ATVs, or space for more seats, or use the space for whatever):

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A Japanese cab forward crew cab (2WD in this country):

ShellonFEcrewcab.jpg



A Japanese cab forward crew cab with an axle relocation:

ShellonFEcrewcabrelocateaxle.jpg



A custom Sprinter double cab . . .

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ETC. :)
 

haven

Expedition Leader
I like this one:


HiscoxShellonFG.jpg



Now we're talking!

Instead of the sleeper, you could use the 4 foot wide space as a Hackney-esque
motorcycle garage, or as general storage.

This illustration shows the long wheelbase Fuso FG. The short wheelbase
model would work well with this shell without the extra storage compartment.
The Fuso chassis is certainly able to carry the heavy shell.

Chip Haven
 

Terrainist

Explorer
Thank you very much MHiscox! That really shows what is going on with it.

Put it on a 2001 Ford 7.3l Powerstroke F350 SRW regular cab, just like your drawing. Finish it out, gear it up, and presto'....one hell of an all weather, heavy duty, very capable rig.

Or, the short wheel base Fuso FG like you say Haven. Man what a rig that would be. Put a 100 gallon fresh water tank between the frame rails...oh the time I could spend in the desert kicking over rocks camping out of that thing.

I have to stop looking at this website.
 

tommudd

Explorer
If you were not clear across the country I would be on your doorstep in the morning. :wings:Someone grab this quick, it will be sweet on the back of any vehicle!
 

over2land

Observer
Dang Mike...

As much as I've been wanting to build a 725, if I had the 3K, I'd pull the bed off my 715 and just build that instead. That box is bitchen man.

Bump for ya.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
I like this one:


HiscoxShellonFG.jpg


This illustration shows the long wheelbase Fuso FG. The short wheelbase model would work well with this shell without the extra storage compartment. The Fuso chassis is certainly able to carry the heavy shell.

If you had or could find a short wheelbase FG, you could do this:

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if you wanted to leave the wheel wells. If you glassed them in (or didn't care) you could snuggle the shell up behind the cab to get a passthrough and build a nice storage platform about 18" wide at the rear. (BTW, the unlabeled dark, striped thing is a spare tire inserted sideways; you could carry another on the passenger side.)

There are obvious advantages to the passthrough you can have with the shell right behind the cab, but there are some drawbacks on a truck like this due to the tilt cab and the engine placement that limits the height of the hole. And, regarding the sketch, most of the weight on any roof rack would, of course, have to be easy to remove for when you needed to tilt the cab.
 

adventureduo

Dave Druck [KI6LBB]
I've seen this cabin in person and i can tell you it's high quality. Mike has taken good care of it and it's been in his garage out of the elements. Shoot if i had a truck to put it on i'd snatch it up! Good luck Mike.
 

Terrainist

Explorer
Just to be clear, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Fuso FG schematic used in the last representation of cabin placement is for a long wheel base FG judging by the split rear driveline (short wheel base FG has single rear driveline?) and the distance (154") between the back of the cab and the end of the frame.

On a short wheel base FG the cabin should just about fit perfectly, if not perfectly, up against the back of the truck cab with the wheel wells of the cabin aligned above the rear wheels of the truck.

There are a few short wheel base FG's for sale on Truckpaper right now.
 

Terrainist

Explorer
Okay, I used some of the figures given on the schematic to get an approximate wheel base of 136.8". So it's for a long wheel base. Short wheel base FG measurement will be around 112". Should fit very nicely as well without the storage between the cabin and cab.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
BTW, as long as I'm throwing out these plans, I should point out that the shell would also make a very good off-road trailer:

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It'd be easy to mount, can accommodate big wheel sizes and is sturdy enough for the purpose. Weld up a simple frame, give it a good suspension and you'd be in good shape.

One advantage to the shell is that while it currently has a little hole in the front that's the passthrough for the original U140L, if the configuration (such as a trailer) doesn't need a passthrough, you can put a big window in the front. In fact, the new window is included.

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The blue tape shows the position proposed for the window.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
On a short wheel base FG the cabin should just about fit perfectly, if not perfectly, up against the back of the truck cab with the wheel wells of the cabin aligned above the rear wheels of the truck.

It's been years since I messed with this stuff (the picture is dated 9-04), but my recollection is that the cab-to-axle on a SWB Fuso was something like 84 inches or 87 or some such, whereas the shell front-to-wheel-well-center is 60 or 64, depending on which way you point it. Not sure why the discrepancy with your calculations.

FWIW, while we're discussing chassis options, the Chevy/GM 4500 and 5500 can be had with 4WD and an 84 inch CA, and last I knew, they were available new with big discounts. I had considered them as a good possibility.
 

Terrainist

Explorer
Okay, you would know what the distance is from the wheel well center to the front on your shell, you are calling it 60" or 64". And the useable cab to axle area on the SWB FG is 87.4".

However, you have assembled your drawing on a blueprint for a LWB FG, that's what threw me for a loop. Didn't know you had figured the distance between the cab and cabin already on the SWB and drew it up accordingly. I did think the cabin would have fit better on the SWB though. And you are saying there is going to be 23.4"-27.4" left over between the cabin and the cab, or for a platform at the rear of the truck. Cool.
 
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