Repost: Plastic interiors.

whatcharterboat

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Hope I'm doing the right thing, I was told that there was trouble with site over the weekend and this post may have been lost. Therefore I'm reposting it. Here goes:

I know that there are a few builds underway at the moment so I am posting this as a possible alternative to common timber / ply interiors and cabinetry. I found this product made in Florida, which looks to be very similar to one that is sold here in Australia.

http://www.kingplastic.com/Products/KingStarBoardST.aspx

I can’t comment on cost comparison, maybe you could have a look yourselves and decide whether or not it is feasible. It is mainly used in the marine industry here so it will obviously be dearer. The end result is pretty much indestructible and can be of the highest quality finish if done right. We only used High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE) the one time in a custom offroad caravan about 4 years ago. It was in our workshop recently and the interior still looks as good as new. The owners have done several serious outback trips and live in it permanently. So lots and lots of bad “washboard” roads. Tow vehicle is a 4x4 F250. Maybe an 04 model??

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As I said it was a one-time thing for us, as we have developed a big selection of interior moulds now that we make our fiberglass cabinets from to go into our offroad motorhomes. Different layouts are based on lightweight modules that we cut to length and juggle around. Everything is glassed to the walls, so the interior all becomes one with the shell. This system creates super tough interiors and integrity but not something that can be “DIY” because of the whole plug/moulding/tooling process. However HDPE panels ARE something that could be tackled by a competent “DIY” person at home.

HDPE is easy to work with using normal woodworking power tools. Also a table saw is great help for getting tight joinery and keeping everything nice and square but you can get by with just a straight edge and a powersaw. It would also handy for backcutting a panel to form radiused corners. See pics. Exposed edges on the denser panels can be polished and I believe it comes in a range of colours. We could only get white then, so everything was given a 2pak colour finish. The bench tops were also HDPE but sprayed with a metal-flake black and given a super hard (scratch resistant) paint specifically developed for that purpose.

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You could fiberglass to it as well, as long as it was properly scuffed up. If you are looking at a composite (fiberglass) camper shell, then this may have to be considered. Everything was screwed and glued but if you do decide this maybe an option for you, get expert tech help. From experience > don’t always take a sales rep’s word on assembly procedures. Ask the rep for the names of guys in the industry who are using it and hound them for advice or recommended.

Not trying to push this particular product in anyway. They were just the first one I found in a US search. Only wanted to give an alternative for consideration. The Aussie caravan magazine absolutely raved about this caravan at the time, but to my knowledge, no one here has ever used this interior construction method in a van/RV before or since. Enjoy the pics. Chris in the pic is about 6’ to give you a scale. Have other plenty of exterior/chassis pics if your interested, but probably not the right forum.

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Believe it or not we had to make the shower deep enough to bath the dog. So it drops about a foot through the floor.

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eugene

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Have you thought of offering some standard parts instead of custom stuff. Sort of how if I want to redo my kitchen i can go down to any hardware store and buy standard size cabinets, do the same here, make some standard sized parts that we can buy and hand ourselves.
 

whatcharterboat

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Hi Eugene

I don't think that the market here for it would be big enough. Not something we have ever looked at. It would be hard to just do cabinets and compete price wise against people who are already doing this type of thing for the much bigger RV market. The problem is that most of it is cheap but won't handle the punishment of offroading. So if you make it properly the price can sometimes scare people off and they often go the cheaper option but end up paying more in the long run. Custom is a bit different. You expect quality.

There are a lot guys here that will sell you pre cut cabinet materials for the DIY person with handle/hinge holes cut etc. So you just screw it together. This way a big chunk of cash can be saved.

I just thought that with HDPE you could possibly buy the sheets and if you didn't want to tackle the cutting this could be done by a local cabinet shop.
 

West Coast Mags

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Can you post any more info or pictures on the box on the back of the F250? I've been interested in something similar for a truck I'm building.
 

whatcharterboat

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Hi Metapoint

Sorry mate, only have this one other pic of the F250. This pic was taken when he first collected the caravan from us. He has since fitted a roof mounted tinnie (what we call a small aluminum boat) loader. We never made the boxes but the next time I see him I will take some more pics if you really want some more.?????

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I believe it was custom made, however there is a lot of guys building this sort of thing commercially here. Custom made and also models to fit specific chassis such as cruisers and patrols. Very common to see 4wds set up like this especially for beach camping. Usually have a slide out kitchen, slide out fridge and possibly a shower on a pole with hot water from a heat exchanger. I’m sure if you got a coy of 4wdmonthly you would get plenty of ideas from the advertisers section at the back. I just did a quick search and came up with this one made by these guys.

http://www.4x4storagecomponents.com.au

. See the pics below.

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We are just about to release a pop top expedition/camper box that would probably fit an F 250 but the setup on the truck with our caravan could also be dual purpose and used for tradesman during the week Also I am having trouble accessing some of the old threads but somewhere about a month ago I talked about this Patrol. See if you can find it. See ya

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whatcharterboat

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Tinnie loader

Should have looked harder first. If you look at the very first pic of the F 250 you can see the tinnie loader on the roof. Its like a frame the angles down to the ground. Takes all the hard work out of putting the boat up there. It must be at least a 10' or 11' tinnie that he has.
 

whatcharterboat

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Metapoint, if you're still around have a look at these. Came across them today in the new " Australian 4wd Action" comic. Some really good ideas for boxes on the back of utes. (Utes are what we call pick ups). I think that metalink could have possibly done the f250 that you originally asked about.

http://trayon.com/main.php?page=photogallery

http://outbackcampers.com.au/tray_topper.htm

http://www.travelander.com.au/photogallery.html

http://www.metalink.net.au/

How far advanced are you with yours or are you still at the drawing board stage? We should have our's finished by xmas. All going well. I'll put some pics when it's close. Its more suited for FG's and Isuzu 4.5/6 ton trucks. Not like the ones in these sites. Ours has a proper shower/toilet, kitchen, beds, fridge etc.

Anyway good luck with it and hope the sites give you some food for thought. Enjoy.

Regards John
 

Mickldo

Adventurer
We use a similar product on the boats we build called Sea Board. It looks like the Star Board is available in a few different varieties. I might have to check out a few of the different ones.
 

Mickldo

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davegonz said:
Looks like they need a small winch installed to make it easier to mount.

Most of the slide-on campers I have seen don't have the wheels on the bottom of the legs. You just reverse the vehicle in underneath. With the straight sides of the camper it is easy to line up with the mirrors.
 

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