Yeah it is interesting they got away from the global engines in the latest Tacoma. To your point, the 1GR was used in overseas Land Cruisers, which to me always meant it was designed for, or at least held up to, a international working environment according to Toyota. The 2TR is another example...I had considered a Tacoma back in 2016 and was going to purchase the 2.7L because they sold it overseas.The whole wading depth thing: It is annoying if there are no official numbers. They give these numbers for Hiluxes and Landcruisers.
But still it is just a depth, and if you drive in fast enough you can still manage to break things or make enough of a wave for it to enter the intake.
I would never be confident to have a lot of water through the grill or even over the hood if it is not fitted with a snorkel.
Saying that you saw the oil pressure light flash at 10 degrees is ridiculous. Any normal car can get 10 degrees in a hilly area, also parked and starting/idling.
Everybody would notice that with any 2GR (and that are a lot of cars, also Lexus)
How was it a driver error?
Next to that, you could say that the 2GR and GR family of engines are a successor to the 3VZ and 5VZ as used alot in the 4runner. And the 5VZ is also built in Landcruisers as well as the 1GR in newer models.
So do they all potentially have these issues? When taking on steep angles?
I wouldn't think so, because it would be about 4Runners, Hiluxes, FJ Cruisers and Landcruiser (Prado). So I would think this is specific to the 2GR, or how it is applied in the Tacoma.
The VZ family were also not intended for offroad use I think but used for it.
The 1GR was definitely intended for offroad use because it has only been installed in 4x4's.
So there is a difference in 1GR and 2GR for this issue.
I wouldn't warranty that. Yeah it's an off road stickered truck. But off road has never been covered by warranty. If you bring me your truck, and it's plastered with muddy sand underneath, I'll do what I can, bit if warranty isn't being generous, your paying $135/hr for my time.
Ford hasn't done a single Super Duty promo yet, that hasn't included complete abuse of the truck. That splashing into a mud pit at 30mph that they do during test drive events, isn't covered under warranty.
If my Ducati's engine lets go in the 150mph kink at Mid-Ohio, that's not covered under warranty. Despite the race promo's, track day test ride events, etc. etc.
Whatever happened to the OP's truck, Toyota did make some modifications to the engine for use in the Tacoma. When MY2016 specs were initially revealed, some complaints about the "Camry engine" were muted when someone posted diagrams of the redesigned oil pan used in the Tacoma. While the Camry version was relatively flat to keep the engine package compact, the Tacoma version was much deeper, presumably to allow for better oil pickup on uneven terrain.I understand your engine was originally used in Camrys and may not have been designed with offroad use in mind.
This is a discussion forum. No one treated you unfairly or rudely. Your comments have attracted scrutiny and some agreement, so your fanboy slight is weak. What sort of response did you expect? As was mentioned, this is nothing compared to the scrutiny any legal action would create. Like your truck, bidding us farewell over so little makes you come off as "high maintenance".It's interesting - but I think it's time for me to sign off on this forum. I don't think there's much more I can do in a room full of Toyota fanboys other than telling my story as accurately as possible, which I've done.
Makes sense. I've heard of other engines burning oil just like that on steep grades. If I remember correctly, the OP said he was getting a low oil light on a 10% grade. If true, that sounds more like a problem with that specific truck (bad sensor, not enough oil in the engine, etc.) than a design issue.Here a few theories about what may have caused the OPs oil problem.
I understand that the Taco got stuck on a fairly steep hill and that the engine was turned off for about 10 minutes. In this case the oil pump doesn't circulate the oil anymore and it flows back following gravity. This may cause 3 problems :
I have seen a few engines with lubrication problems like the one observed by the OP. But in these cases the trucks either fell on their side or where stalled at very steep angles, way steeper than the hill I have seen on the pictures.
- Because of the steep angle it doesn't flow through the normal channels but instead gets into a cylinder through an open valve. I have seen this happening in overturned vehicles. Once the engine is started you have something like a hydrolock with oil instead of water.
- When the oil levels out in the oil pan and the crankcase it may be too high at the rear due to the steep angle of the engine and the last piston may hit the oil when going down. This can severely damage the piston or the crankshaft.
- The intake for the oil pump may be at a position where it runs dry if the oil levels out at a steep angle.
Cool shot!That sucks In may case Overlanded 90% off road pretty much entire states AZ,CO,UT,NM with ZERO problem . I put this with the transmission problems I must have a unicorn just FYI this is my 1st Toyota couldn't be happier with its off road performance.
Is that pic the Pole Creek crossing off of Stony Pass?That sucks In may case Overlanded 90% off road pretty much entire states AZ,CO,UT,NM with ZERO problem . I put this with the transmission problems I must have a unicorn just FYI this is my 1st Toyota couldn't be happier with its off road performance.