When did mountain biking become so specialized!

jmnielsen

Tinkerer
I've been doing a lot more biking lately and am starting to see the downfalls of the cheaper Trek DS I bought 8 years or so ago. I've been looking at a Salsa Fargo, but not so sure about the dorp bars. I have some wrist and thumb issues, can anyone comment on comfort of drop bars? I've been thinking a frame up build of a Fargo with Jones Loop bars may be the ticket.
 

MTVR

Well-known member
A Fargo would be SO cool. I love steel bikes, and I would love to have a monstercross bike. There are so many great ones available right now.
 

Howard70

Adventurer
I've been doing a lot more biking lately and am starting to see the downfalls of the cheaper Trek DS I bought 8 years or so ago. I've been looking at a Salsa Fargo, but not so sure about the dorp bars. I have some wrist and thumb issues, can anyone comment on comfort of drop bars? I've been thinking a frame up build of a Fargo with Jones Loop bars may be the ticket.
I ride two Salsas - a Mukluk (fitted with 3 x 27.5" tires rather than fats) and a Cutthroat. Mukluk with traditional MTB bars and the Cutthroat with Cowchippers (wide in drops drop bars similar to Fargo) for about 4,000 to 6,000 miles a year. If there is any pavement or smooth gravel roads involved the Cutthroat is the prefered machine. Lots of options for different hand positions (flats by stem, top of hoods, forward facing high [behind hoods], forward facing low [posterior drops], in the curves [forward drops], etc). My wrists really prefer the Cutthroat.

If there is a lot of really soft surface I'll take the Mukluk for the flotation of the 3" tires. If I know there could be miles of hike-a-bike I'll take the Mukluk because she carries easier (I don't know why but she does).

I had one of the first Fargos back when the model came out. Rode it for a year and it was OK, but I was just coming off road biking then and she felt sluggish & heavy. The carbon Cutthroat is a much nicer ride for me, but the Fargos have been through a lot of iterations since mine and could be a completely different ride than I recall.

If you ever rode road the splayed drops on the Fargo/Cutthroat will feel different but familiar and comfortable. I'f you've only ridden mountain then it's hard to say. You may hear that you can put flat bars on a Fargo which is true, but be careful as the frame geometry of good bikes is designed around one type of bar so your upper body position may shift away from an optimal position which can lead to knee, butt, back, or neck problems.

Howard
 

jmnielsen

Tinkerer
I ride two Salsas - a Mukluk (fitted with 3 x 27.5" tires rather than fats) and a Cutthroat. Mukluk with traditional MTB bars and the Cutthroat with Cowchippers (wide in drops drop bars similar to Fargo) for about 4,000 to 6,000 miles a year. If there is any pavement or smooth gravel roads involved the Cutthroat is the prefered machine. Lots of options for different hand positions (flats by stem, top of hoods, forward facing high [behind hoods], forward facing low [posterior drops], in the curves [forward drops], etc). My wrists really prefer the Cutthroat.

If there is a lot of really soft surface I'll take the Mukluk for the flotation of the 3" tires. If I know there could be miles of hike-a-bike I'll take the Mukluk because she carries easier (I don't know why but she does).

I had one of the first Fargos back when the model came out. Rode it for a year and it was OK, but I was just coming off road biking then and she felt sluggish & heavy. The carbon Cutthroat is a much nicer ride for me, but the Fargos have been through a lot of iterations since mine and could be a completely different ride than I recall.

If you ever rode road the splayed drops on the Fargo/Cutthroat will feel different but familiar and comfortable. I'f you've only ridden mountain then it's hard to say. You may hear that you can put flat bars on a Fargo which is true, but be careful as the frame geometry of good bikes is designed around one type of bar so your upper body position may shift away from an optimal position which can lead to knee, butt, back, or neck problems.

Howard
I want to Fargo for a few reasons - most of which are probably different than when you had it:

- I can run 29x3 tires
- Steel frame with carbon fork
- Suspension corrected in case I decide to go that route someday

Maybe I should just give drops a try? I am trying to find someone locally to me that has a Fargo that they would rent or loan to me to take on a couple longer rides to make sure it is what I am hoping it will be. I like gravel and want to do some single track. I do plenty of pavement but have no issue that the bigger tires will slow me down, I'm not trying to win any races. Hoping to try bikepacking out too at some point. I'm a larger guy (6'2" 265lbs) so the big tires and steel frame speak seem like they'd be great options for me.
 

george441

New member
Recent past years have been revolutionary for mountain bikes. I also felt the same while purchasing my recent mountain bike.
 

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borison

Adventurer
I've been doing a lot more biking lately and am starting to see the downfalls of the cheaper Trek DS I bought 8 years or so ago. I've been looking at a Salsa Fargo, but not so sure about the dorp bars. I have some wrist and thumb issues, can anyone comment on comfort of drop bars? I've been thinking a frame up build of a Fargo with Jones Loop bars may be the ticket.
I’ve ridden Jones Titec H bars and Salsa Woodchippers on my 2 primary bikes for many years. I have a more difficult time with hand pain on the H bars vs the drop bars. FWIW
 

djsixbillion

Adventurer
Christian, I'm close to you in Norcal, and ride up in Tahoe all the time, as well as Downieville, Moab, etc. If you want to enjoy steep, rocky trails like Armstrong Pass, Mr. Toad's, Kingsbury, etc. - get a 29'er with 120-160mm of travel front and rear. I'm the same size as you (5' 8", 160 lbs) and ride a medium Ibis Ripmo. It climbs amazingly, and rips the descents. I've been riding and racing for 20 years or so, have a bunch of other bikes too (including a gravel ride), but that's the one that gets used most. There are plenty of other great options from Santa Cruz, Canyon, YT and others, as well as the big boys Trek/Specialized/Giant. PM me if you want to ride or chat bikes!
 

Snowboard.wa

New member
Christian, I'm close to you in Norcal, and ride up in Tahoe all the time, as well as Downieville, Moab, etc. If you want to enjoy steep, rocky trails like Armstrong Pass, Mr. Toad's, Kingsbury, etc. - get a 29'er with 120-160mm of travel front and rear. I'm the same size as you (5' 8", 160 lbs) and ride a medium Ibis Ripmo. It climbs amazingly, and rips the descents. I've been riding and racing for 20 years or so, have a bunch of other bikes too (including a gravel ride), but that's the one that gets used most. There are plenty of other great options from Santa Cruz, Canyon, YT and others, as well as the big boys Trek/Specialized/Giant. PM me if you want to ride or chat bikes!
Yep! Agreed. I have the Ripmo AF, which is the aluminum version. Best all around bike you can get. Can handle everything from mellow single track to a lift served bike park.


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spazzyfry123

New member
I cannot locate an entry level mountain bike to purchase. I've got my road bike, but we have a pretty good trail system here that I would benefit more from. Don't want to go nuts on price, so I feel like I locked into a Specialized Rockhopper Sport 27.5. I can't find one anywhere. Reached out to Specialized and got "Rockhopper models are backordered out for the foreseeable future so a new order placed will likely not be fulfilled until May or later 2021." o_O

I know I'm not the only one, but wow! Figured I'd try here to see if anyone has the scoop.

So...um. Anyone know where those bikes are?

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