What to put in my Faraday box?

WSS

Rock Stacker
I just finished a project with a 1650 Pelican case that I have had around for ages. I lined it with Titan RF fabric and tape that I purchased from Mission Darkness. The pelican has a lid organizer and a old style padded divider. My intent was to put in a few radios and an ipad. After I was finished, I realize I have a lot more room. What else should be included? Small solar panels? Rechargeable batts? I know many have an opinion on this subject, and I welcome them, but if your going to critique the use or making of, please drop in a quarter and give your opinion on what should or could be included in the box.

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NatersXJ6

Explorer
What is the intended purpose? Are you trying to prevent scanning / tracking, or is this to help something survive an EMP event? I think the list of items included changes based on the answer. For instance, including your cell phone to save it from EMP seems like a waste, losing all the usefulness of it on a regular basis only to have it “still work” when the entire network “doesn’t work” seems counter-productive.

On the flip side, If you put your teenagers phone in the box for punishment… that seems like a great plan!
 

WSS

Rock Stacker
The intended use is to protect against CME's and EMP's. I know that is a wide spectrum but I have been able to block 50mhz all the way to 5ghz with total blockage. Will it stop a high altitude nuke or EMP? Dunno yet.

Agreed about the cell phones. But, the apps will still work, maybe even the maps/gps part, What do you think? On that note, should a GPS be included? Will sats be knocked out?

For the kids, I had left over fabric, one layer and a little tape made a Faraday phone bag that completely blocks signals in and out. Probably about $3 worth of material. The stuff is amazing.
 

NatersXJ6

Explorer
So, I don’t necessarily share any sort of prepper spirit, and don’t really know what would be destroyed by EMP, but if life were to revert back to pre-electric days, I believe a really good calculator, a multi-meter, and flashlights will be among the most valuable things on earth. Cell phones… not so much. We lived without them in the seventies but calculators were gold back then.

On edit… also a solar charge controller or two.
 

WSS

Rock Stacker
I have a good multi meter in there. Calculator is a good idea, However, the ipad has a calculator app, what do you think?

My thinking is protecting electronics from a CME or EMP is not a prepper thing, more like a drybag for keeping items dry. Prepper covers a wide gamut to be sure. I do prep my Jeep before every trip. Am I a "Prepper"? Most likely, I carry a lot of gear to make sure the family and I get back safe.

I have two 40 watt folding solar panels (which are apparently safe if not connected or grounded) that will fit in the box. I probably should get a few of the small charge controllers too.
 

billiebob

Well-known member
Buy an old 4x4 with a mechanical diesel and a clutch, get an axe, a rifle lots of freeze dried food and even more ammo. If it has a battery just throw it out. The whole grid, internet will be gone after the first explosion. Fill that Pelican Case with water, buy lots of PAPER maps. And more matches.

ps, one cannot have too much toilet paper.... We bought the one on the left on line in April 2020 next to the one on the right sold everywhere.... after the first nuke you will not want to buy anything.

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DrkBlue

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What to put in an EMP-protected box?
Hopes and dreams?

Nearly every scenario involving an EMP means there has been and will be a nuclear exchange. I would want to go back in time…

But your next risk will be nuclear fallout. My choice will be a MOPP4 ensemble and a lifetime supply of filters, water and food..
 

billiebob

Well-known member
when that happens, head for the hills. look for a high alpine lake a thousand miles from civilization and learn to hunt fish and garden. Understand we will not need technology, it will not work, we will be living as our great grand parents did 150 years ago.....

and the world will be a better place
 

WSS

Rock Stacker
when that happens, head for the hills. look for a high alpine lake a thousand miles from civilization and learn to hunt fish and garden. Understand we will not need technology, it will not work, we will be living as our great grand parents did 150 years ago.....

and the world will be a better place
Almost like our forefathers. My thermal and 6mm Creedmore are slighty more advanced than what was available back then. lol. Yes, my thermal will survive, it is in my farady box.
 

WSS

Rock Stacker
What to put in an EMP-protected box?
Hopes and dreams?

Nearly every scenario involving an EMP means there has been and will be a nuclear exchange. I would want to go back in time…

But your next risk will be nuclear fallout. My choice will be a MOPP4 ensemble and a lifetime supply of filters, water and food..
What are the ranges of an EMP from a high altitude blast? how about the range of fallout the same blast, which is further. I know fallout is based on wind currents, how about an EMP?
 

billiebob

Well-known member
What are the ranges of an EMP from a high altitude blast? how about the range of fallout the same blast, which is further. I know fallout is based on wind currents, how about an EMP?
umm this is all hypothetical but google what happened in Japan in 1945 and bet the results are exponentially greater today. We have been playing cat and mouse chicken for 78 years.

War today is a game. Many get rich but no one is in it to win. If we wanted to win we'd have made the Ukraine a no fly zone on day one.....

PS this is my favorite photo of why the Ukraine will win. When a pilot is flying so low he picks up a highway sign.... he is flying on the edge.
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DrkBlue

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What are the ranges of an EMP from a high altitude blast? how about the range of fallout the same blast, which is further. I know fallout is based on wind currents, how about an EMP?
It depends. Depends on numerous variables including height, intensity and even what is going on in the sky when the device activates. Being directly under an EMP device may end up being the safest place.

An atmospheric burst is going to precipitate, sooner or later. That is when people are in real trouble. Even if people shelter and don’t get exposed to radiation, likely the entire food chain is contaminated for the next 10-20 years.

If you are going to die of rad poisoning, I guess an iPad would be nice to have.
 

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