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What Half-Ton Truck & Why

D45

Explorer
What is the suspension set up on these Rebel trucks?

Are they all the Same? Options?

Rear coils?
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
My experiences aren't as extensive as others but so far I'm very happy with my 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 EB and 10 speed. Average MPG has been around 18 - 19 when not towing a 3500lb trailer. This is hand-calculated, not using the on board computer which was about 10% optimistic (there is a way to calibrate it though, which is nice: Now my hand-calculated figures match my on board computer pretty closely.)

Towing MPG is not good 9 - 13 but considering that the trailer is about 9' high and I'm pulling it over an 11,000' pass, I think it's reasonable. This is the same or a tad lower than what I got in my Suburban but where the Suburban struggled over the passes, in the F-150, I can stay in the left lane and cruise right by slower traffic, something I was NEVER able to do in the 'Burb. The 10 speed is great compared to the ancient 4 speed 4L60 in my 'Burb.

It's not all roses, some of the trim pieces are a little cheap and seem to be poorly attached (trim pieces at the bottom of the bed) and I still struggle with finding a good seating position. I can't decide if the seat is too firm, too soft, or just poorly contoured but it's not as comfortable as the Suburban, by a long shot. Long drives leave me hurting after a couple of hours and I need to stop and stretch. I miss the pre-set seat positions that my 'Burb had. The only other things I miss that the 'Burb had that the F-150 doesn't are a 4A position on the transfer case control (which I could have gotten with an upgrade to the Lariat trim level) and the rear wiper (though to be fair, the wiper on the Suburban pretty much only worked when it was warm, so it wasn't much help in the snow.)

On the plus side, I find the ride to be decent on 18" tires. MPG has been great considering that I'm running winter gas and mostly driving in the suburbs and city - around 18 average or a bit higher, the 'Burb was lucky to get 12 under the same driving conditions (10 - 11 was more common.) The 36 gallon tank is awesome and the capless fuel filler makes for quick and convenient fuelups. The 10 speed transmission does a great job of slowing the combo down when we are descending from a pass pulling the trailer. I love the quiet cabin and the audio system seems to have a good sound to it (I have an IPhone but I don't use Car Play because I don't like the way it "hijacks" the center display.) Remote start is a nice feature to have since I park outside (my garage space is dedicated to motorcycles.) In terms of space, I find the 5.5' bed to be perfectly adequate for my needs. In fact, for camping it's almost an embarrassment of riches in terms of space. With the topper on, when I put all of our normal camping gear in (stuff that absolutely FILLED the Suburban) it barely came above the bed sides, enough so that I have to actively discourage my wife from bringing more crap because "why not? We have room for it." :rolleyes:

The crew cab is HUGE on the inside with way more leg room than the Suburban had.

I got mine used with 17k miles on it, and it's just under 24,000 now. It will be under the bumper-to-bumper through 36k miles and engine/powertrain to 60k. The only actual "issue" I have currently is that my left rear taillight housing seems to be leaking and when it does, water pools in the bottom and causes my lower turn signal bulb to pop (it's happened twice in the space of a month.) After the holidays I'll schedule an appointment at the dealership to have that taken care of under warranty since it's apparently a known issue.

I looked at the Ram trucks as well, and liked them OK but the wife didn't. When comparing the two, the 3.5 EB seemed to me to offer a more elegant solution to the problem of how to get decent MPG and decent power from the same engine than the mutli-displacement technology of the Hemi. The 36 gallon tank was also a big selling point for me. But it was a close choice - either one would probably have been perfectly suitable and the Ram definitely enjoys a "price premium" over a similary-equipped F-150.

The pitifully small 26 gallon tank (with no option for a bigger one) on the 2015 - 2018 GM trucks took them off my list as did the older-tech 6 speed auto. GM trucks also seemed to have an unusually high price point for the same year and miles, at least around here (Colorado.)

Overall I'm happy with my choice, at least so far. Given the cost I'm committed to this vehicle for at least the next 7 - 8 years which should take me up through my retirement, at least that's the plan. Who knows, maybe by that time someone will have come up with a well designed and reliable plug in hybrid pickup that will likely be my next rig.
 

D45

Explorer
My F150 had a 36 gallon tank, which was nice

They don't offer any thing larger than a 26 gallon tank anymore?!
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
My F150 had a 36 gallon tank, which was nice

They don't offer any thing larger than a 26 gallon tank anymore?!
GM doesn't on their extended cab and crew cab trucks. I think the regular cab long bed has an option for a 38 gallon tank but it won't fit on the CC or Double Cab. The previous gen Rams (5 lug wheels) had an optional 33 gallon tank but I don't know how common it was.
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the half tons with a diesel option. Have a f150 at my job with the diesel and ten speed auto. It's a XL model so pretty basic but does everything we ask of it. Fuel mileage is about 20 average in nothing but stop and go traffic. Little over 500 miles to a tank. Plenty of torque to get you into trouble if you want. Size is very adequate. Haven't towed anything with it but payload is pretty good. No issues with the ten speed auto but it's fleet maintained.
 

D45

Explorer
I found two nice Ram Rebel trucks that I am interested in

One is a Canadian truck and one is a New Foundland truck......both are in the US, any issues with them passing emissions or warranty related work?
 
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Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
And you can get the 4A and memory seats, leather, power folding mirrors, blind spot assist, 36 gallon tank and on an on and on. It's not like the F150's don't have all the goodies, you just have to pay for them @Martinjmpr
Oh, I understand that completely and it was a tradeoff I made knowingly. I think all the Lariat's I saw had leather seats which after 4 years with the Suburban, I decided I did NOT want.

Had I gone with the Ram 1500 I would have gotten the 4auto and heated cloth seats - but no rear locker. So there's always a tradeoff. I'm content with the choices I made.

And BTW I DID get the 36 gallon tank. That was one of my 'deal breakers'. No 36 gallon tank = no sale. My "must haves" were simple: 4wd, Ecoboost, 10 speed, E-locker, 36 gallon tank and heated seats. Built in trailer brake was a 'want but not a deal breaker' option, but mine came with it (also the trailer backup control which looks kind of neat but I haven't actually tried it out yet.)

I sometimes wish I had a console in the center instead of the folding bench seat but if I really want to I can swap the console in (there's a guy on the F-150 forum that did and it looks pretty clean.) I much prefer column shift to a console shifter though so I was glad to have a column shift.

Other quibble is on the backup camera. It's a little washed out. I don't know if I can increase the contrast or not (if there is a way to do that I haven't found it. Brightness, yes, but not contrast.)
 

jonathon

Active member
I found two nice Ram Rebel trucks that I am interested in

One is a Canadian truck and one is a New Foundland truck......both are in the US, any issues with them passing emissions or warranty related work?
You will NOT have any warranty on a Canadian truck in the US.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
You will NOT have any warranty on a Canadian truck in the US.
Are you sure on this? I know FCA had some debacle about that. But thought it was cleared up. Maybe not. Any sources you can share?

I believe Ford’s warranty is good to and from Canada.
 
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