MI55U5
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Haven't been able to get out for a drive yet, soon as I can get for one, will check the codes again.
Use of Memory Clear and Diag Check for ECU Errors instead of MUT/OBD
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Haven't been able to get out for a drive yet, soon as I can get for one, will check the codes again.
Greetings everyone
I'm a newbie on the forums.
There's nowhere to introduce yourself on here from me looking.
I own a FB634 3.0D 4m42-0AT Recovery Truck
I had EML appearing on long journeys and it would go into limp mode ofcourse. Spluttering at 2k rpm iirc.
It came down to the pump. So I wasn't willing to pay £1k for the pump. Instead I bought another Canter and fitted the entire engine with Pump(untouched)
This ran well until I had to head to Scotland and the truck threw a Yellow the Red EML together.
I got it recovered back and thought what could it be?
So after researching for numerous days.. I found a place called QER Ltd who specialise in the EDU units on these Vp44 pumps.
I took the part with me in person and within an hour or so it was repaired.. Some components within the next the EDU needed replacing.
Upon refitting it, it ran like a dream for 3.5 Years. No issues whatsoever until recently...
I was driving along in 2nd at low speed and all of a sudden.. The truck without signs switched off
It would turn but won't start.
So AA to the rescue and suspected it to be the pump after testing certain components as it would only start on Easy Start.
So I removed the pump. Took off the EDU unit and went up to QER once again(last week)
The Fella (Paul) great chap said it was Fried.. And fortunately managed to solve it and guarantee it's 100%.
So I refitted this and the blummy thing won't start.
I've checked everything that I can but nothing seems to be out of place.
The truck starts with Easy Start only.. But won't Rev with Pedal.
I've even pulled it along and tried bumping it numerous times.. It starts but as soon as it slows down or you press the clutch.... It stalls
Yellow EML stays on as soon as you start it.
So I know it has an old OBD port with 2 wires and a diag check single wire plug and a reset too.
I've pulled the diag and Red EML flashes 3 long.. So 30 I believe?
I don't know what this code is or if I'm diagnosing it correctly?
So I'm in need of your help people please.
Before I remove the pump later this afternoon and take it to a place nearby whom check these Vp44s on the bench.. Is there anything I should check?
As for Timing of these Pumps with the Engine Top Pulleys. Is there an indicator on the Pump to determine where exactly to slot it back in?
I'm asking as I could have screwed up or maybe not.
Would you think it could be a Relay(yellow one below the fuse box)?
I don't have any wiring diagrams or information at hand as its ran pretty well and rather Reliable throughout my ownership of 6+years minus the pump issue.. Which was a very cheap fix.
If anyone has then please shed some light?
Kind Regards
P.s I shall check here for anyone who can help before removal today.
Thanks in Advance
Umar
Pps
Pete(Canter Diesel)
I hope you have had some joy with your truck?
If only you were more local. could swap parts to get yours running tip top.. Unless its the same problem as mine. Haha
I'm a newbie on the forums.
There's nowhere to introduce yourself on here from me looking.
I own a FB634 3.0D 4m42-0AT Recovery Truck
I had EML appearing on long journeys and it would go into limp mode ofcourse. Spluttering at 2k rpm iirc.
It came down to the pump. So I wasn't willing to pay £1k for the pump. Instead I bought another Canter and fitted the entire engine with Pump(untouched)
This ran well until I had to head to Scotland and the truck threw a Yellow the Red EML together.
I got it recovered back and thought what could it be?
So after researching for numerous days.. I found a place called QER Ltd who specialise in the EDU units on these Vp44 pumps.
I took the part with me in person and within an hour or so it was repaired.. Some components within the next the EDU needed replacing.
Upon refitting it, it ran like a dream for 3.5 Years. No issues whatsoever until recently...
I was driving along in 2nd at low speed and all of a sudden.. The truck without signs switched off
It would turn but won't start.
So AA to the rescue and suspected it to be the pump after testing certain components as it would only start on Easy Start.
So I removed the pump. Took off the EDU unit and went up to QER once again(last week)
The Fella (Paul) great chap said it was Fried.. And fortunately managed to solve it and guarantee it's 100%.
So I refitted this and the blummy thing won't start.
I've checked everything that I can but nothing seems to be out of place.
The truck starts with Easy Start only.. But won't Rev with Pedal.
I've even pulled it along and tried bumping it numerous times.. It starts but as soon as it slows down or you press the clutch.... It stalls
Yellow EML stays on as soon as you start it.
So I know it has an old OBD port with 2 wires and a diag check single wire plug and a reset too.
I've pulled the diag and Red EML flashes 3 long.. So 30 I believe?
I don't know what this code is or if I'm diagnosing it correctly?
So I'm in need of your help people please.
Before I remove the pump later this afternoon and take it to a place nearby whom check these Vp44s on the bench.. Is there anything I should check?
As for Timing of these Pumps with the Engine Top Pulleys. Is there an indicator on the Pump to determine where exactly to slot it back in?
I'm asking as I could have screwed up or maybe not.
Would you think it could be a Relay(yellow one below the fuse box)?
I don't have any wiring diagrams or information at hand as its ran pretty well and rather Reliable throughout my ownership of 6+years minus the pump issue.. Which was a very cheap fix.
If anyone has then please shed some light?
Kind Regards
P.s I shall check here for anyone who can help before removal today.
Thanks in Advance
Umar
Pps
Pete(Canter Diesel)
I hope you have had some joy with your truck?
If only you were more local. could swap parts to get yours running tip top.. Unless its the same problem as mine. Haha
Canter Diesel
Member
Hi Umar,
I had the slave wire put in. It still went into safe mode, however it was just for a split second. Returning from me 34 miles journey it went back into safe mode, stayed in for approximately 400metres and came back out again. I was told that the chap will look further into the wiring. He only ran a wire from the pump to the ECU and not the EML. We will do this in due course, though the truck is still drivable even in safe mode, just not great with a load on it. Originally the problem was the pump's cam shaft timing sensor inside the pump. Unfortunately the other issue is the wiring.
Sorry I can't help you with your truck, though a lot of the time it is in the wiring. My safe mode is a low voltage on the CTS which is why we are looking to by pass all wiring connected to this sensor.
I did have on one occasion have the red and orange EML come on. This was another issue we couldn't find, eventually we found a blown fuse, we replaced it and not had that issue again. I think this was caused by a short when we were under the dash pulling at wires?
I had the slave wire put in. It still went into safe mode, however it was just for a split second. Returning from me 34 miles journey it went back into safe mode, stayed in for approximately 400metres and came back out again. I was told that the chap will look further into the wiring. He only ran a wire from the pump to the ECU and not the EML. We will do this in due course, though the truck is still drivable even in safe mode, just not great with a load on it. Originally the problem was the pump's cam shaft timing sensor inside the pump. Unfortunately the other issue is the wiring.
Sorry I can't help you with your truck, though a lot of the time it is in the wiring. My safe mode is a low voltage on the CTS which is why we are looking to by pass all wiring connected to this sensor.
I did have on one occasion have the red and orange EML come on. This was another issue we couldn't find, eventually we found a blown fuse, we replaced it and not had that issue again. I think this was caused by a short when we were under the dash pulling at wires?
Canter Diesel
If you can email me your contact number please.. I would grateful mate....
umar.r32@gmail.com
Thank you
If you can email me your contact number please.. I would grateful mate....
umar.r32@gmail.com
Thank you