The Status of Overlanding Today

Is overlanding becoming a glorified excuse for more bolt-ons and less about travel today?

  • Yes

    Votes: 157 94.0%
  • No

    Votes: 10 6.0%

  • Total voters
    167
What's it like Slaving in India?
I don't know. I'm retired here. You ought to watch a move, "India, Age 25." It about the same questions about life in the face of a civilizational norm forced on Indians by Westerners, living and working just like the White Man (the one who makes the rest of us look bad to everyone else).

 
This guy I spotted commuting on the DC Beltway made me think of this thread.

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Pretty soon, they'll make things that go out two feet from either side of the vehicle for storage as well as upward, and then petition to change the state/DOT laws to allow for this extra width to tie on even more "stuff."

Question - what would make up the extra 1,000 lbs of gear attached to such a vehicle? 2 extra tires? A disassembled spare motor? Spare batteries? Power train spares?
 

JCliftonB

Member
This guy I spotted commuting on the DC Beltway made me think of this thread.
The fact that LR sells this version of the Defender baffles me and makes me think of this thread. I'd bet MOST of those buying this version will never unbolt anything from the roof or use the traction boards let alone know what the cables attached to the hood are for.

This commercial response to what "overlanding" is today is a prime example of my point with this thread.

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Fishenough

Creeper
The fact that LR sells this version of the Defender baffles me and makes me think of this thread. I'd bet MOST of those buying this version will never unbolt anything from the roof or use the traction boards let alone know what the cables attached to the hood are for.

This commercial response to what "overlanding" is today is a prime example of my point with this thread.

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I think I could travel remote over the PNW and far north for 300 days a year and would never see this vehicle. I'd bet on that. Though I did throw away 30 mins of my time and interest watching YouTube videos about the Trek LR. Thank JCliftonB

Decals on the rear mud flaps. 30 years of backroads and I can't even count the mud flaps I've destroyed. Talk to me when you duck tape up trim/bezel/headlight gaps to keep the 'brush' out.
 

dragonbyu

Observer
The fact that LR sells this version of the Defender baffles me and makes me think of this thread. I'd bet MOST of those buying this version will never unbolt anything from the roof or use the traction boards let alone know what the cables attached to the hood are for.

This commercial response to what "overlanding" is today is a prime example of my point with this thread.

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Those where built for the Trek Competition. You can’t walk into a dealer and order one.
 

tacollie

Glamper
The fact that LR sells this version of the Defender baffles me and makes me think of this thread. I'd bet MOST of those buying this version will never unbolt anything from the roof or use the traction boards let alone know what the cables attached to the hood are for.

This commercial response to what "overlanding" is today is a prime example of my point with this thread.

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In Land Rovers defense they always sold things like that. My dad bought a defender with a roof rack and an obscene amount of lights from the dealer in 95'🤣.
 

JCliftonB

Member
Those where built for the Trek Competition. You can’t walk into a dealer and order one.
Correct, you cannot order one new, but you can buy one nearly new now that Trek is finished. The image I got was from a dealer local to me.

My point remains that the commercial response to "overlanding" supports the notion that "overlanding" is widely viewed as a market category now and not an activity anymore.
 

Ozarker

Explorer
This reminds me of buying a Porsche 911S thinking I'd run at Le Mans in '74.

My "Overlander" is a white stock 2020 F-150 4x4, extended cab with a real bed covered. I don't even have a decal on it! If anyone sees me in the woods along a power line trail, they will think I'm a maintenance guy.

My young neighbor has a new Tacoma, fully decked out, 2 awnings, RTT, rack, fuel cans, tools attached, raised with oversized tires and custom lights. It's never been gone for more than 48 hours.
 

AbleGuy

Officious Intermeddler
Titanium sporks? This guy had the future of camping in the U.S. correctly pegged way back in 1988. In his very enjoyable book, The Lost Continent, Travels in Small Town America, humorist Bill Bryson wrote:

“What slowed the traffic here were the massive motor homes lumbering up and down the mountain passes. Some of them, amazingly, had cars tethered to their rear bumpers, like dinghies. I got stuck behind one on the long, sinuous descent down the mountain into Tennessee. It was so wide that it could barely stay within its lane and kept threatening to nudge oncoming cars off into the picturesque void to our left.

That, alas, is the way of vacationing nowadays for many people. The whole idea is not to expose yourself to a moment of discomfort or inconvenience-indeed, not to breathe fresh air if possible. When the urge to travel seizes you, you pile into your thirteen-ton tin palace and drive 400 miles across the country, hermetically sealed against the elements, and stop at a campground where you dash to plug into their water supply and electricity so that you don't have to go a single moment without air-conditioning or dishwasher and microwave facilities.

These things, these RVs, are like life-support systems on wheels. Astronauts go to the moon with less backup. RV people are another breed and a largely demented one at that. They become obsessed with trying to equip their vehicles with gadgets to deal with every possible contingency.

Their lives become ruled by the dread thought that one day they may find themselves in a situation in which they are not entirely self-sufficient.

I once went camping for two days at Lake Darling in Iowa with a friend whose father- an RV enthusiast-kept trying to press labor-saving devices on us.

"I got a great little solar-powered can opener here," he would say. "You wanna takethat?"

"No thanks," we would reply. "We're only going for two days."

"How about this combination flashlight-carving knife? You can run it off the car cigarette lighter if you need to, and it doubles as a flashing siren if you get lost in the wilderness."

"No thanks."

"Well, at least take the battery-powered microwave."

"Really, we don't want it."

"Then how the hell are you going to pop popcorn out there in the middle of nowhere? Have you thought about that?"



You can see these people at campgrounds all over the country, standing around their vehicles comparing gadgets-methane-powered ice-cube makers, portable tennis courts, anti-insect flame throwers, inflatable lawns. They are strange and dangerous people and on no account should be approached.”
 

irish44j

Well-known member
I think I could travel remote over the PNW and far north for 300 days a year and would never see this vehicle. I'd bet on that. Though I did throw away 30 mins of my time and interest watching YouTube videos about the Trek LR. Thank JCliftonB

Decals on the rear mud flaps. 30 years of backroads and I can't even count the mud flaps I've destroyed. Talk to me when you duck tape up trim/bezel/headlight gaps to keep the 'brush' out.
There are at LEAST four of those at a local high-end car dealer. I figured it was the dealer itself bolting on that stuff and marking it up for a trendy sale, didn't realize that's actually a LR package!

If you want one, here's the site: https://www.fairfaxmotors.com/

They also have a bunch of built jeeps ("Starwood Conversion" whatever that is)
 

AbleGuy

Officious Intermeddler
The fact that LR sells this version of the Defender baffles me and makes me think of this thread. I'd bet MOST of those buying this version will never unbolt anything from the roof or use the traction boards let alone know what the cables attached to the hood are for.

This commercial response to what "overlanding" is today is a prime example of my point with this thread.

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Here’s how we’re starting them young to buy into this blingy crap…with a Lego’s kit:
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sg1

Adventurer
The problem is that there are various types of overlanders. The trucks with all sorts of stuff hanging outside and a crazy lift with huge tires are very unlikely to go on a long trip to South America or Africa. The stuff hanging outside would be stolen fairly quickly and you won't find spare parts or replacement tires for these exotic aftermarket parts. These trucks are made for relatively short trips in North America and they probably are fun but not comfortable to live in for months in bad weather. Overlanders on long trips in challenging countries use different rigs.
But for a short and perhaps even technical trip in North America these show trucks are cool and a lot of fun. Nothing wrong with letting the kids have fun but don't try to use one of those rigs on a serious and long trip internationally.
 

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