The full sized mid-size, my 2014 F150 "Fiddy"

Grassland

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Depending where you are in North America, "mid-size" trucks such as Tacoma, Colorado etc have very steep price tags, and don't get the large breaks off MSRP that many volume selling full size trucks do. As well, the payload is often lower, going along with the smaller volume these trucks have. 2019 ZR2 Colorado gas V6 is over 50k MSRP locally, and Tacoma TRD Pro is 45K MSRP locally, as a point of reference.

Sometimes good value can be had in a lighter duty full size truck, particularly the 2015+ aluminium F150s that are significantly lighter than the 09-14 models. I look at these as trucks you would treat with the mid size mentality, and use in the same roles, with the same performance limits. They just happen to be larger trucks.

With this in mind, I chose to keep my 2014 F150 SCAB 4x4 3.7 V6 and think of it as a larger mid-size truck. (This was the first truck I purchased for my business, which I took out of service after 4 years)

I picked this truck up July of 2014 for $31988 or something just shy of 32k. MSRP was $40400. For fleet purposes i had to get an Add a leaf installed after less than 2 years. I also went to 235/80R17 Load E tires for work. The Topper and drawers were added for work as well, so when it was time to swap this truck out for something more capable in fleet duty, the truck was halfway to an overland vehicle already, and most importantly, paid off. I also added the full aluminium RCI skid package to my truck "to protect from jobsite debris" before the truck was pulled from service, and the stock shocks were bagged, so switched them to bilstiens across the board.

Once it was in for personal use, I swapped to 34x10.5R17 KO2 tires, and reprogrammed the truck with an SCT X4 tuner. Compensating for the larger tires, and putting the 91 performance tune on to fix the horrible factory shifting and throttle lag.

One picture is in work duty with 235/80R17, the other is with the larger tires
 

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Grassland

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Anyone who works out of a truck for a living as a tradesperson finds out in short order how useless half ton trucks are. I was routinely over payload and GVWR on this truck, which was one of the reasons I went to a T250 medium roof van. And frankly I should have paid a touch more to get a T350.

Like midsize trucks, light and even typical half tons run out of payload pretty damn fast. This truck has a factory rating of 1500# payload.

My biggest regret with this truck is not having the factory tow package. Until recently, this hasn't mattered, as I live in the prairies, and there are no hills to be found. However, we just got back from a trip to BC, and on two occasions the trans gauge crept to the high end. Getting just to the yellow line as I reached the top of mountains, pulling over to cool off.
Considering the 1000# in the truck, the 2500# crappy pop up camper we were pulling, and the 3" taller than stock tires while on factory gears, i have few complaints with the performance here. Semi trucks were doing 60 KPH up the one climb, and I managed 90 KPH, noting the trans temp climbing after the halfway point, so I didn't want to push harder.
(This was East of Salmo on highway 3 East in BC. Crowsnest pass highway or something I think it was called, if anyone in the area knows the elevation change of that hill, that would be great to know)

The next vehicle will most certainly have the factory tow package with transmission cooler.
 

Grassland

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Besides this trip to BC, which is a beautiful province, my favorite outing with this truck was our last winter camp out.
The truck could use a locker, and judging by the axle wrap it has now, once a locker is in place, it would need traction bars. The 3" rear blocks were probably a bad idea, but they were put in when the truck was in service, and all the weight had the back end maybe 1" higher than the front, especially with the work trailer hooked up.
 

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phsycle

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I like those old 3.7’s. How many miles?

Looks like a great set up. It’ll get you to a lot of places.
 

bas157

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Grassland, there is a Max Payload option for the new F150 that can get total payload up over 3,000. I've been looking online at local dealers and it does not seem to be an option that is on very many (none I found so far) trucks in the area. Not sure if it is just heavier rear springs or what all is done to get the payload up. I was trying to find one with max tow and max payload options, didn't find any.
 

Grassland

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Grassland, there is a Max Payload option for the new F150 that can get total payload up over 3,000. I've been looking online at local dealers and it does not seem to be an option that is on very many (none I found so far) trucks in the area. Not sure if it is just heavier rear springs or what all is done to get the payload up. I was trying to find one with max tow and max payload options, didn't find any.
Indeed there is a max payload and max tow package. However to achieve these figures you need to select particulardrivetrain/length/powertrain/configuration packages.
Off the top of my head, max payload would be a 5.0 with 3.73 rear end, regular cab Long box, but I don't remember exactly. You can look up specs on Ford's website to see the configurations and rated capacities, and yeah, odds are you won't find one on a lot.

But I recall specifying a 5.0 F150 4x4 with tow package and mirrors, LT tires etc when looking at a new fleet truck, and for 5k more I could have got a gas F250 that exceeded all of the F150 capacities except fuel economy.
 

Grassland

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I like those old 3.7’s. How many miles?

Looks like a great set up. It’ll get you to a lot of places.
I like the engine. I bought a 2018 Ford Transit with the same 3.7, it just had less jam in this platform.

Only 98XXX km on this guy. Cab corners will have to be replaced before engine gives me trouble. If the 3.7 was in the new aluminium trucks I'd have swapped already. I'm considering the 3.3 which is a derivative of the 3.7.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
I like the engine. I bought a 2018 Ford Transit with the same 3.7, it just had less jam in this platform.

Only 98XXX km on this guy. Cab corners will have to be replaced before engine gives me trouble. If the 3.7 was in the new aluminium trucks I'd have swapped already. I'm considering the 3.3 which is a derivative of the 3.7.
It’s interesting Ford continues to produce Transits with 3.7’s. Looks like they went to 3.5 for 2020. Wonder why they don’t sync base engine options with the F150’s.

I was close to getting a base engine with 3.3 when I bought my F-150. Only one thing stopped me. Payload. 6,500gvwr gave me 1,500lbs in my configuration. Going to 3.5EB, got me almost 2k lbs. Too bad they don’t just make the GVWR the same across the board.
 

D45

Explorer
I have had a 2400-2600 pound pallet of landscaping pavers in my truck

It did squat, but nothing severe or unsafe

The max payload and max tow are nice options
 
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