These will be my next ones. Still love my Beckmans, but I messed up and went a 1/2 isze down on my Moc Toes and one is just enough too tight that it is pretty uncomfortable by days end. But, they were to expensive not to wear. I keep watching sierra trading post for the Roughneck Moc in my size. They sell Red Wing Heritage factory seconds at 30% off. I oil my Mocs almost every time I wear them hoping they might stretch a bit. No luck so far. Also plan to get a pair of Beckmans in black from Sierra Trading.I'm really hard on footwear. I'm lucky to get 6-8 months out of most stuff. So today I went looking at the local Red Wing Store at got a pair of Roughneck 8146.