rangers and explorers as dd/expowheelers

TOI

Web Adventurer
now i have a bias opinion that all fords will blow up and just be crap, and with that being said i'm thinking about getting an explorer or ranger. probably a ranger cause i find me need for a truck more then more glass and things to smash when being a turd. anyways there is alot of parts from the XJ/MJ platform that i can bring over. (sas lift things, bumper ideas blah blah blah)


anyways, what is the expo communities thoughts on a early 90's explorer/ranger?


-Ian
 

98dango

Expedition Leader
My exwife and I had a 91 explorer and it was a good truck the 4.0 dose have its issues with lifters. All in all there a good platform. The aftermarket support for the ranger and explorer is huge.
 

bftank

Explorer
they suck!!!:Wow1:
















































just kidding:sombrero:. we like ours. so far it is a mild build. mud tires and tube bumpers. pretty reliable, good power. average 16 mpgs loaded on road trips. great for fire roads. stock susp. is pretty stiff. removing rear sway bar helps some. haven't found it necessary. the explorer has a stronger rear axle, the ranger has less stuff to break. i.e. windows sheetmetal.

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i would buy one again, and would trade my burb for a ranger.
 

Scott B.

SE Expedition Society
320,000 miles on my '93. (I am in the process of dropping in a 302.)

My ex had a '93, too.

Great trucks - can't go wrong.
 

mustangwarrior

Adventurer
the 4.0 in them is a pretty good motor, the trannies, not so much, we sold our '95 4.0 explorer with 220k on it, still ran great, but the body was gone and the underside was shot
 

4x4junkie

Explorer
I have a '94 Ranger, and a '90 Bronco II, both of which have been wonderful rigs.
I started out with my Ranger as my main wheeling/camping rig, but (not wanting to completely trash the body on it) I eventually bought the BII to fix up and have since been using that mostly for my trail excursions (the Ranger primarily serves as a DD now).

If you haven't already, take a look at www.therangerstation.com. There's tons of stuff you can do with these rigs. :smiley_drive:
 

Brian1

Observer
I love my 91 Explorer. It is my DD and my Expo rig. I have kept it mild with 3" total lift on 32s, lockers, sliders, bumpers. The engine has just under 210k on it and I have the 5spd manual transmission. The aftermarket for the Explorers and Rangers isnt very big as Jeeps and even Toyotas. Some stuff can be adapted like you mentioned and you can find basic stuff like lifts and a small selection of bumpers and drivetrain performance items. I have built my own suspension components, bumpers, rock sliders, skid plates, battery mounts and so on for it. I do like the TTB axle but I am in the minority it seems like as most everyone that takes theirs off road eventually swaps in a solid axle. I feel it is a great mix for any technical stretches of trail and then the long desert roads or fire roads and the manners on road I dont mind. The only thing I dont really like is the lack of power from the 4.0 and I will eventually be doing what Scott is in the process of doing right now.
 

TOI

Web Adventurer
i'm basically sold, my only problem is the market in my region sucks. cant find anything worth a damn for less then $2000. which is a problem for me right now with my limited budget
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
Neither the Explorer or Ranger have much ammo to change your negative opinion. Look towards a Ford with a manual transfer case, manual hubs, and 1 ton axles.

The Explorers and rangers market is to provide what the imports have at a lower price. I've allways found quality lacking in those trucks. I don't think Ford puts the same effort into all it's vehicles. Those to have allways felt less like a F150/350, and more like a Topaz/Tempo/Escort to me.

The Explorer is called "the exploder" for a reason. My friends have had better luck using Subaru's as Expo vehicles. I don't find either easy to work on. My honest opinion is to look at the offerings around that size from Toyota, Mitsubishi (dismal warranty service, but if you're OK with used, no problem), or Nissan.

To everyone that's had good luck with them, more power to ya, I'm glad to hear it. But if my company switches to Rangers as service vehicles when the Van plant shuts down............ I'm quitting.
 

4x4junkie

Explorer
I do like the TTB axle but I am in the minority it seems like as most everyone that takes theirs off road eventually swaps in a solid axle. I feel it is a great mix for any technical stretches of trail and then the long desert roads or fire roads and the manners on road I dont mind. .


I think the solid axle is way overrated.
I still have the TTB axle (HP D35) under mine also. It's hardly had any failures, and has taken me everywhere I've needed it to (even over California's Dusy/Ershim and Rubicon trails, among others).
Like with any other setup, everything has to work properly with everything, you can't just stick some stiff old-school lift springs under one and pay no attention to the steering linkage geometry and expect it to perform well. Unfortunately that's exactly what most of the suspension lift industry has done, which makes poking through a catalog and throwing whatever poorly-engineered crap they might recommend at it unlikely to have satisfactory results. Many guys don't seem to realize this and assume the solid axle is the only answer (which certainly it does solve the issue quite well, though there are easier ways to go about it). Unlike with A-arm IFS, building a TTB setup can be done pretty cheaply and still get some great results out of it, some of which can't be had with the solid axle.

As for aftermarket, it's actually pretty good for the drivetrain (nearly any type of locker & gear ratios you could ever want, double transfercase kits/Atlas t-case, etc.)... Where it's not so strong is in the body bolt-ons department (bumpers, armor, skidplates, etc.). I've built most of the stuff for mine also, which actually saves a lot of dough in the process too (if you've ever seen what a swingout tire carrier/bumper setup goes for lately :Wow1: ). Building your own also lets you personalize it for your own use, instead of having something that was made for the masses.

Neither the Explorer or Ranger have much ammo to change your negative opinion. Look towards a Ford with a manual transfer case, manual hubs, and 1 ton axles.

The Explorers and rangers market is to provide what the imports have at a lower price. I've allways found quality lacking in those trucks. I don't think Ford puts the same effort into all it's vehicles. Those to have allways felt less like a F150/350, and more like a Topaz/Tempo/Escort to me.

The Explorer is called "the exploder" for a reason. My friends have had better luck using Subaru's as Expo vehicles. I don't find either easy to work on. My honest opinion is to look at the offerings around that size from Toyota, Mitsubishi (dismal warranty service, but if you're OK with used, no problem), or Nissan.

To everyone that's had good luck with them, more power to ya, I'm glad to hear it. But if my company switches to Rangers as service vehicles when the Van plant shuts down............ I'm quitting.

Seems a little ignorant to base the quitting of your job over something like that... :confused: But to each his own.
I think I can safely say you shouldn't have to worry about that happening though. You could wind up with Colorados instead. lol
 

CityBoyAtl

Adventurer / Globetrotter
hard to switch to rangers when they no longer make them

+1, I have a explorer sport trac, but since no new ones coming out, I'd go Toyota.
don't get me wrong, the trac has been a great crew cab 4x4. And lots of mods. But ford is getting out of mid-sized trucks..
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
It's a smart move on Fords part. The Rangers only sell to fleets too cheap to buy F150's. The new F150's feel like small midsized trucks to me anyways. There really isn't any real advantage to the little trucks anymore except for up front cost. And in many cases the 1/2 ton sized trucks offer similar sticker cost unless your buying a dozen little trucks.

The overseas market is going to eat up all the new diesel Rangers, but I don't expect that here.

The van markets are dieing quick as well. Most fleets either under utilize thier vans hauling flowers, or overload thier vans hauling tools and trailers. A little truck would be better for one fleet, and a bigger, more expensive truck for the other. I get stuck in vans cause they're cheaper. Rumor has it that the vans will be phased out withing 4 years.

I won't work from a ranger/canyon/colorado/tacoma whatever. No room, no safety, no productivity (which affects my pay). A Colorado would make me want to kill myself in just a couple weeks. Lets not even start with the Nissan Vans that come with bicycle tires.
 
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