Palomino Backpack

Mack4

Adventurer
Couldn't find much information on Palomino Backpacks on here. So, I thought I'd post up camper and some of the things we're learning about these affordable campers as well as changes were making to suit our travel style.

We're coming from this rig, which served us well, but is a bit too small for the four of us and really didn't do the 3/4 diesel justice in terms of available payload.

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So, we went on the hunt for a pop-up camper and ran into an issue - Ramboxes. With a 50" bed width that pretty much ruled out anything from FWC without a bed swap or flatbed. I actually really like the Ramboxes, they are the most accessible truck toolbox I've ever owned.

After a fair bit of research online, I found the backpack line of Palomino truck campers. They have a reasonably low weight ~1500lbs, Aluminum frame and will actually fit a Rambox bed, albiet a little tight!

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Enter the 2016 Palomino Backpack SS-550.

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I was actually surprised how poorly our 2014 Ram 2500 handled the load. She wallowed like a pig all the way back to East Texas. When we got home, I added Timbren bump stops front and rear, which took the sway out of the rig at highway speeds.

Next came the interior. It started out like this, nothing wrong with it, we'd just like to make some changes.

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We wanted to open up the camper a bit, remove some of the storage cabinets we didn't need and make a sleeping area for our two kiddos.

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At the moment "the box", as my four year old calls the camper, looks like this, being prepped for a new "kitchen" ceiling. The jury is out if it's going to be wallpaper, a stain or white paint.

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Cushions are being recovered, considering pulling the three way fridge and dropping our Norcold fridge in its place. I don't have much experience with these three way fridges, but they seem like a bit if a pain.

Previous owner installed these lights, which are my kiddos favorite feature.

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I need to figure out how to best secure the camper to the truck, install our old awning, maybe figure out a tailgate extension and finish out the interior.

I'll post some pictures along the way, for anyone looking at these campers they seem like decent construction and are very affordable on the used market.

This is what I could find online about how they're built. Not a FWC for sure, but with some reinforcement I think it will serve us well.

Factory Tour showing aluminum framing near the end.

Article that covers the switch to aluminum framing in recent years.
 
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Mack4

Adventurer
Here are some pictures of the build quality on the Palomino SS-550. Reference material for anyone looking to pick one up.

Aluminum Framing appears to be 1/8".

Vent reinforced for AC install.

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Truck Cab overhang frame, notice it's only welded on two sides. This seems to be a theme on this frame.

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You see that again here on a corner piece.

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The only image I can find of what this might look like under the side walls is here:

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You can view the roof construction without aluminum framing here, this must be standard across the roof.

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The truck mounts seem to be hardend steel. The bolts look to be 1/4, not sure of the grade.

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Here we see a couple of things. I believe the roof jacks are a part of the structure of the camper. They seem to tie into the lower and upper body, providing some rigidity. Same size hardware as the underbody mounts and while the exterior of the camper roof is built with extruded aluminum channel/angle, the interor only has a couple of these small mounting blocked screwed into the wood. I would like to run a long section of aluminum angle bolted along this seam, but I am not sure it is nessecary when the camper top is clamped down.

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The floor is 2" thick, seems to be pretty stout, plywood construction.

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Mack4

Adventurer
Another reference post. Fitment on a 2014 Ram 2500 w/ Ramboxes. Sorry for anyone that this doesn't matter to, this is all information I wanted to figure out before I made the drive to purchase one.

The big question for us Rambox owners, can I still use my boxes? I am happy to report that, yes you can! I can open mine up 5" and still fish out my tools, drill, straps etc. That being said my camper is sitting on a 1" thick rubber mat.

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3.5" from the top of the rambox to the bottom of the overhang.

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With the shortbox dodge, I removed the factory cab wall bumpers and used another sheet of rubber in an attempt to bring the camper as close to the rear window as possible. Gave me about an 8" gap and 13" of tailgate sticking out from the back of the camper.

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About 8" from the top of the cab to the bottom of the camper overhang.

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If you're reading this and are curious about a specific dimension, let me know and I'll add it.
 
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Copperhead14

Observer
I tried to convince my wife on one of those before we purchased our toy hauler.
we have a 2017 mega cab with ram boxes. Yours looks great.
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
If you're running stock shocks chuck them in a New York minute. They're designed to give a good highway ride and get you to sign that contract. At the very least a good 2.0 Fox or King rebuildable reservoir unit will dramatically enhance highway and off highway handling.
 

Trikebubble

Adventurer
Congrats on the new camper. As far as the much-hated 3-way fridge goes, I love mine. It really depends on where you live, and how much access to sunlight you have to see if it's worth having or not. I live up here in BC, and we camp in dense tree cover and off-season a lot, so I find it great piece of mind that my propane fridge doesn't care at all about my batteiries or solar. It just keeps working. In 50K km of travel I have never had any issue with it at all. Beers always cold, and it sips propane. If you decide ot keep it, chec kand see if hteir is a small fan (looks like a computer fan) in the outside compartment. Adding one (if you don;t have one) will go a long way to helping it circulate air and work more efficiently. My fridge has one on a thermostat and it fires up when the outside temp gets too hot. On my old trailer I just added a computer fan and ran a switch inside to turn it on and off.
also make sure to check your turnbuckles occasionally. I replaced my stock one with one that have a jam nut to keep them from ever loosening off.

Happy travels.
 

okiedavid

New member
Even though I already have a Four Wheel Camper, I appreciate these types of posts with so much detail. Your taking the time to give more info that you can get from a manufacturer's website always helps somebody out there.
 

Mack4

Adventurer
Thanks for the feedback guys! One of my favorite things about this community is the level of detail you can pull out of these forums! Always a pleasure to give back in the same way.

On the tiedowns, why use chains and turnbuckles instead of straps? I've heard that you need to keep those tie downs tight, but not too tight, or it will pop the chain, damage the camper etc. Does anyone run a strap setup in their rig? Seems like a strap would provide the elasticity required by a shifting load better than a hand tightened turnbuckle.

This is what I've cobbled together, I need to change it but, not sure if I need to purchase Torklift frame mounts, build some kind of cradle like FWC uses or some other option.

Here is the front:

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Tied into the frame with a carhauler strap:


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On the rear, I had carhauler straps wrapped around the frame and then going to toklift turnbuckles and I was also thinking about tiesing the turnbuckles directly to the rear bumper as pictured.

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Thoughts?

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Mack4

Adventurer
Trikebubble,

I do have a computer fan in my exhaust, looks like that's been taken care of for me! Thanks for the insight.

I am guessing that you run the fridge on DC while in transit and then switch over to Propane when you are in camp?

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Trikebubble

Adventurer
Trikebubble,

I do have a computer fan in my exhaust, looks like that's been taken care of for me! Thanks for the insight.

I am guessing that you run the fridge on DC while in transit and then switch over to Propane when you are in camp?

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I run the fridge on gas when driving, always. I've never used the DC option, I believe it's very ineffective and if you make the mistake of forgetting about it, it'll kill your battery in no time. I usually pre-cool on AC at home the day before, then switch to gas as soon as we start driving.

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Mack4

Adventurer
Putting on the primer, I hear the cabinets are going to be a forest green. Wife was up until midnight with my oldest doing all this. Looks like they had a lot of fun!
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Mack4

Adventurer
Interior was finished just in time for our trip, we got a little snow and discovered having a heater is pretty amazing!

Camper did great, end up winching a F350 DRW that was hanging off a mountain road in the middle of the night. Pays to have a winch!

We also found that the extra weight in the bed gave the Ram pretty excellent traction in all the mud the snow left behind.
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kerry

Expedition Leader
We like our three way fridge. It used to blow out while driving sometimes. I added a relighter. It’s never gone out since.
 

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