Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
The guy showed the tracks in the first video I posted.
New Jeep Pick Up to be unveiled...The Gladiator
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Exactly. The higher payload capacity means that I can go camping in difficult to reach areas, with 4 kids and full gear, and not have to tow a trailer. That significantly reduces cost and hassle for those with similar needs.
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Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
They increased the grill openings and upgraded the cooling fan, both because they needed more cooling for that tow rating.
So it's obvious they tested the heck out of this, and they wouldn't rate it at that unless it can handle it.
Obviously the 3.0 diesel with 260hp and 442 ft. lbs. and the 8 speed will tow that with absolute ease over any mountain road in the USA.
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Thanks, was looking for the still of it.
There is it is! Thanks Doc! Couldn't remember where I saw it.
Here you go @Wallygator thought that was a nice attention to detail. As we were just discussing how cool this thing would be as a bike hauler.
Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
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LOL
Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
Ha!
I saw Toni Bou a few times and he did things like that. At the end of the show he used the bike to smash out all of the windows and then crushed the car nearly flat. It wasn't a Prius but some other commuter box.
DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Here you go @Wallygator thought that was a nice attention to detail. As we were just discussing how cool this thing would be as a bike hauler.
Tacomas have had those tracks and cleats since 2005. And it's pretty well known the cleats alone aren't up to holding down a dirt bike.
But the aftermarket knows how to get 'er done, spread the load over a larger area and its fine. That is if you don't just bolt rings to the forward bed bolts anyway, which is the most secure way to do it.
rkj__
Adventurer
If you don't mind letting the Pentastar V6 rev, and are ok with travelling less than 65mph up tough grades at elevation, it will take your 7000 lb trailer up the toughest climbs.
justbecause
perpetually lost
I think the truck looks great, I think the numbers are impressive. I don't think I'll ever get another 5ft bed truck, but obviously I'm a minority in that opinion.
I like that they used the wrangler doors, it'll make accessory and aftermarket support cross over a non-issue.
They should have used a gladiator grille.
Axles should have been 6 lug with FF rear.
How could they make the departure angle any better? Have no bed stick beyond the rear wheels so you have a 2.5ft truck bed?
no thanks.
I like that they used the wrangler doors, it'll make accessory and aftermarket support cross over a non-issue.
They should have used a gladiator grille.
Axles should have been 6 lug with FF rear.
How could they make the departure angle any better? Have no bed stick beyond the rear wheels so you have a 2.5ft truck bed?
no thanks.
Justincredible
Adventurer
I think Jeep did a great job in terms of making a Wrangler pickup with a usable bed.
My 2 concerns would be:
1. Cost. A base JL unlimited starts at $31.5k and I expect the equivalent Gladiator to be roughly $5k more, so you could be knocking on $50k to get into a Rubicon.
2. Many JLs have suffered from poor welds and there were a couple pictures I saw yesterday that tell me the Gladiator will have the same issue.
My 2 concerns would be:
1. Cost. A base JL unlimited starts at $31.5k and I expect the equivalent Gladiator to be roughly $5k more, so you could be knocking on $50k to get into a Rubicon.
2. Many JLs have suffered from poor welds and there were a couple pictures I saw yesterday that tell me the Gladiator will have the same issue.
The main reason I'm not sold on the 3.6L gas version is the wheelbase. A solid front axle just isn't enough to overcome the disadvantages compared to my midsize pickup with stock diameter tires, 2" lift, and aftermarket bumpers.
Pros:
- Solid axles (articulation, ease of suspension mods, etc, etc)
- Aftermarket
- Good stock approach/departure angle
- Turn radius should be at least as good as shorter IFS midsize trucks with same-length beds, because axle.
Cons:
- Solid axles (I really don't think this will cruise on the highway better than a JKU/JLU, and those are awful on long trips compared to a well-configured conventional pickup)
- Wheelbase - breakover angle is a bit on the "meh" side compared to contemporary midsize pickups with OEM offroad packages.
- It's a Jeep. Yes, I know this is the Jeep subforum. Yes, I have a Jeep. But I do have a Jeep - nobody is going to BS me about build quality, although I hope they've fixed a couple of the really annoying JK issues, like their propensity to turn into rolling swimming pools.
Neither here nor there:
- Stock approach and departure angles are comparable to midsize pickups with smart bumper/suspension mods; those trucks are much cheaper to start with, so they may still end up being less expensive
Predictions:
- They will sell a ton of these
- Those willing and able to run 34/35" tires will have a blast offroad with them without giving up anything on the trail to a conventional pickup, especially when the diesel versions show up.
Pros:
- Solid axles (articulation, ease of suspension mods, etc, etc)
- Aftermarket
- Good stock approach/departure angle
- Turn radius should be at least as good as shorter IFS midsize trucks with same-length beds, because axle.
Cons:
- Solid axles (I really don't think this will cruise on the highway better than a JKU/JLU, and those are awful on long trips compared to a well-configured conventional pickup)
- Wheelbase - breakover angle is a bit on the "meh" side compared to contemporary midsize pickups with OEM offroad packages.
- It's a Jeep. Yes, I know this is the Jeep subforum. Yes, I have a Jeep. But I do have a Jeep - nobody is going to BS me about build quality, although I hope they've fixed a couple of the really annoying JK issues, like their propensity to turn into rolling swimming pools.
Neither here nor there:
- Stock approach and departure angles are comparable to midsize pickups with smart bumper/suspension mods; those trucks are much cheaper to start with, so they may still end up being less expensive
Predictions:
- They will sell a ton of these
- Those willing and able to run 34/35" tires will have a blast offroad with them without giving up anything on the trail to a conventional pickup, especially when the diesel versions show up.
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