New Garmin Montana 700 Series GPS Units with 5" Touchscreen and InReach Capable

pluton

Adventurer
The only issue I have had so far is moving the street maps that came with the unit to my SD card. I use Garmin Express to do this and it takes about an hour, but when I disconnect the GPS and then re connect it, the maps are still located on the Internal memory. I am also trying to figure out how to delete or move the south american topo maps since I will never use them.
Removing maps from the 700 before I returned it was easy---Google how, it's pretty trouble free. I think I used Garmin's online instructions. In my research, I came across a few warnings that when a map is sold as pre-installed on a unit, the map cannot be 're-located' to another GPS unit or memory card. Delete, yes, they said...save and move somewhere else--- possibly not. Subject for further research.
 

pluton

Adventurer
If my 650t would ever die I would definitely buy this.
My 650t was a faithful companion for about 9 years, then the touchscreen started to fart out... in the lower left corner. I seriously considered buying a 610t from GPS City ($350...Wow! Cheap!) to replace it. But then I remembered that it was also a sad companion next to the smartphone running Gaia. Entering waypoint names became pure slow-moving torture-of-the-mind on the 650t compared to the smartphone speed of doing the same thing on Gaia. The new 700 series fixes that, mostly.
 

pluton

Adventurer
Turns out the old 24K Topo maps are more accurate than the Topo Active as they are missing a ton of trails in CA. I sent some comparison pics to Garmin but I doubt anything will come of it. I have not had any issues with bright light on my unit. I took it one one hike so far and could read the maps just fine.
i’ve been puttering through the Mojave National Preserve this weekend, bringing along an iPhone with GaiaGPS, and the Garmin700i with Garmin’s TopoActive maps, plus some topo maps previously downloaded from GPS file depot.
Results so far:
TopoActive is not very complete; I was driving on known, frequently travelled dirt roads that were completely missing from TopoActive—-and, interestingly—-also missing from Gaia’s ‘Gaia Topo’. Detail was flat out inferior to the old Garmin US 100K.
I just ordered a DVD copy of the Garmin US 100K, since the built in 100K in my old Montana 650t is supposedly locked to that device.
The Garmin 100K on DVD (and SD card?)may be a discontinued item

Update: Garmin DVDs of locked maps are worthless now, because Garmin has removed the unlocking key from their website. Do not buy a Garmin DVD map unless it is unlocked. The one I got didn't say 'locked' or 'unlocked' on the package or DVD.
 
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Cabrito

I come in Peace
i’ve been puttering through the Mojave National Preserve this weekend, bringing along an iPhone with GaiaGPS, and the Garmin700i with Garmin’s TopoActive maps, plus some topo maps previously downloaded from GPS file depot.
Results so far:
TopoActive is not very complete; I was driving on known, frequently travelled dirt roads that were completely missing from TopoActive—-and, interestingly—-also missing from Gaia’s ‘Gaia Topo’. Detail was flat out inferior to the old Garmin US 100K. I just ordered a DVD copy of the Garmin US 100K, since the built in 100K in my old Montana 650t is supposedly locked to that device.
The Garmin 100K on DVD (and SD card?)may be a discontinued item.
Did you turn off the City Navigator maps? I was running my new 700i this weekend in Mendocino Forest at Penny Pines and was pretty impressed with how many of the Forest Roads, and OHV trails were showing up. Only one Black Diamond trail didn't show on the 700.
 

pluton

Adventurer
Did you turn off the City Navigator maps? I was running my new 700i this weekend in Mendocino Forest at Penny Pines and was pretty impressed with how many of the Forest Roads, and OHV trails were showing up. Only one Black Diamond trail didn't show on the 700.
Yeah, I [am pretty sure I] turned CN off. I tried different settings as I went. At my present level of knowledge, the 700i does many things that I didn't think I told it to do, one of which was go into some kind of 'street nav' mode. I'll load the US 100K map into it when it comes ($49 at Sportsman's Warehouse) and see how that works.
NOTE: The Garmin US 100K maps sold by Sportsman's Warehouse were locked and therefore not useable---Garmin no longer supports unlocking DVD maps. I'll give it at least one more remote area trip before I decide whether or not to sell it on Craigslist or here. I'm pretty sure that Garmin wants me to buy an Overlander for the car, and keep the 700i for hiking.
Update: I'll not sell it...there's nothing else that's equivalent on the market, and iPhone + Gaia is not 100% reliable IMO.
 
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Alloy

Well-known member
Turns out the old 24K Topo maps are more accurate than the Topo Active as they are missing a ton of trails in CA. I sent some comparison pics to Garmin but I doubt anything will come of it. I have not had any issues with bright light on my unit. I took it one one hike so far and could read the maps just fine.
Data will be removed to maintain/reduce file size and trails, roads and sites are removed so they don't need to be maintained.

The 680 I have uses GPS & GLONASS. On an up and back hike along the same path there is 15-40' difference (setting are high) between the 2 tracks. When stationary for a couple of hours the 680 position will bounce around a 100-200' area

The 700 uses GPS & Galileo(European GPS) which is suppose to be more accurate. How is accuracy on the 700?
 

pluton

Adventurer
The 700 uses GPS & Galileo(European GPS) which is suppose to be more accurate. How is accuracy on the 700?
I have no opinion yet; I haven't used mine enough. On my recent trip, the 700i always showed where I was accurately, unlike GaiaGPS on my iPhone Xr, which kept trying to place me 35 miles away from my actual location for about 24 hours.
 

Cabrito

I come in Peace
I'm pretty happy with mine thus far, but still learning all the different setup bits.

Anyone have issues with it crashing / turning off without warning? It's happened to mine several times in different situations. The ADV Rider Forum thread has several people reporting it too.

I used it extensively this past weekend in the FJ, on the bars of my XR400, and in my number plate bag on my CRF250. It never crashed or turned off so that was nice.

100 miles of dirt rocks, silt, ect mounted in the AMPS cradle on the XR400 in Mendocino Forest. Yeah, in some shade sections it's hard to read sometimes. I ran the topo maps, and they had all our roads listed. I also fired off a few inReach messages to another rider in our group and Mrs Cabrito back home. The messaging worked well for me, but my friend sent me some messages the day before that I never received so I"m not sure what's up with that. I powered it off the USB port on my XR, and even had a water crossing that I hit too fast and the water went over my head and drenched me.

30 miles of rough single track on the CRF250 with it in my number plate bag just for tracking, and it worked great.

I need to put a screen protector on it ASAP though. I already scratched the screen.

My plan for this device was to have one GPS for my FJ, and my bikes plus hiking, and so far it's working out ok.
 
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