Minimum EV Range Requirement for Touring Western U.S.

[calicamper]

Is the model 3 wall wort rated for 24A @120V AC? That is not a typical outlet output in a USA home.

Umm! All EVs you set the peak pull number. You can set it at 5,10,12,15,18,25,40,43 pick a number!

I have my moms T3 set at 45amps for her 50 amp feed. I have my plugin hybrid set at 12 amps for my 15 amp feed.
The EVs are all
Manually set based on their source

 

[calicamper]

What PHEV do you have?

Fusion Energi Titanium with cooled seats. Haven’t found a replacement yet with cooled seats and an interior thats more than a 2005 Corolla interior ?

 

[Boatbuilder79]

Tesla only needs 2 hot legs and a ground to charge at 240 volts. It also works with 120 volt.
You can control the amps it pulls with the car.

Any welding or dryer outlet is fair game.

 

[plh]

Umm! All EVs you set the peak pull number. You can set it at 5,10,12,15,18,25,40,43 pick a number!

I have my moms T3 set at 45amps for her 50 amp feed. I have my plugin hybrid set at 12 amps for my 15 amp feed.
The EVs are all
Manually set based on their source

I did mention 120V supply... Good luck feeding 43A @ 120V from a normal USA household electric service.

 

[calicamper]

I did mention 120V supply... Good luck feeding 43A @ 120V from a normal USA household electric service.

With EVs the in the in the know only discuss amp limits. Discussing volts is just dumb

 

[plh]

With EVs the in the in the know only discuss amp limits. Discussing volts is just dumb

Yeah, I get that, but volts push amps, and fuses protect wires. There are 30A 120v outlets fed by 10 gauge wire - it is not common in a USA household.

 

[Boatbuilder79]

It is not dumb to consider voltage.

 

[Martinjmpr]

For overlanding a hybrid with a ICE generator under the hood would make the most sense. Make it like a diesel/electric locomotive where there's no mechanical connection between the engine and the drivetrain, the motor just charges the batteries. No need for a transmission or transfer case.

 

[Boatbuilder79]

The problem is that you need a a 100 horsepower generator to make enough power for a 90 horsepower electric motor. But you could throw a nice inverter generator like a Honda 7500 in the back and charge while you parked it would be somewhat efficient. A gallon of gas would get you about as far as it would in a gas truck but you would have the downtime while charging.

It seems like you could rig it to charge while driving and extend the battery range but that might have to wait till the warranty runs out

 

[plh]

The problem is that you need a a 100 horsepower generator to make enough power for a 90 horsepower electric motor. But you could throw a nice inverter generator like a Honda 7500 in the back and charge while you parked it would be somewhat efficient. A gallon of gas would get you about as far as it would in a gas truck but you would have the downtime while charging.

It seems like you could rig it to charge while driving and extend the battery range but that might have to wait till the warranty runs out

That is my PHEV

 

[Boatbuilder79]

That is my PHEV

Which one do you have?

 

[craig333]

IMO range is not as important as (1) speed of charging and (2) availability of chargers.

Right now we think of a "charging station" the same way we might think of a gas station. We subconsciously ASSUME that an EV charging station will look like a gas station.

But a gas station looks like it does because of the unique requirements of liquid petroleum. They have to be big enough to accommodate storage tanks and the big tankers that fill those tanks. They have to be placed in areas where their highly flammable and potentially environmentally hazardous materials can be safely stored and dispensed. All that means that they have to be big enough to sell enough gasoline (as well as the other, sundry items that they actually make a good profit on) and stay in business.

An EV charging station doesn't need to look anything like a gas station. Any place with electricity can, in theory, host an EV charging station. There isn't even a reason an EV charging station needs to have an employee on duty.

An EV charging station could be a huge parking lot with 200 charging stations, or it could be a small convenience store with 5 chargers. Or better yet, a restaurant: What better way to drive business to your restaurant located in a small town than to put a dozen EV chargers out front. People need to charge their cars? "Hey, here's a station, let's plug in. Hmmm...I'm hungry, where can a person get a bite to eat? "

Small towns could put charging stations in front of the public library or the police station or the city hall. Grocery stores could put banks of EV chargers in their parking lot, and get people to think "hey, as long as I'm stopping here to charge the car, I might as well get my grocery shopping done."

Let's take a concrete example: White Rim Trail in Utah. From pavement-to-pavement it's around 120 miles, which is within the range of most EVs. Imagine a charging station at the RV campground at US 191 and UT 313. You could "top off" your EV there, run WRT and still make it back there to the same location.

Another point, the "environmental impact" of an EV charging station is much less than that of a gas station. So the Park Service could put a big EV charging parking lot at the visitor's center. They probably wouldn't even have to pay for it, rather, the power companies would be happy to install it because of the money they'd make from it (I'm assuming some kind of credit-card swipe or maybe just your EV has your credit card data already in it and when it plugs into the power grid, the power company knows who to charge.)

I'm not so sure charging stations wont' be similar to gas stations. People will still want to use the restroom. Purchase a drink and a snack. Clean the windshield etc. I can see it being a huge boon for Casino's. Maybe even a return of the roadside attraction. Gotta do something while waiting for a charge.

 

[plh]

Which one do you have?

2018 Mitsubishi Outlander GT PHEV

 

[calicamper]

2018 Mitsubishi Outlander GT PHEV

That was cool vehicle but I was really disappointed in its size.

 

[plh]

That was cool vehicle but I was really disappointed in its size.

in 2018 it was the only SUV sized PHEV in the market, a few more alternatives today. It seats 5 fine, no 3rd row. Excellent build quality 98% of the vehicle is Japanese parts, and of course assembled in Japan. We actually leased it in 2018, came off lease in July 2021 - there were no cars that interested us in available to lease / buy at that time, so we bought it off the lease. Still shopping for a replacement, but not seriously. Its my wife's daily driver.