Lighting The Campsite Perimeter

UNI

Adventurer
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Smudge Pots

As you know when boon-docking/primitive camping, its dark, real dark out in the forest. We have always used Tiki Torches to light up the campsite perimeter. The Tiki Torches work great, the only draw back is getting the torches into the ground, we pack a 3/4" x 3ft. piece of galvanized pipe and hammer to make a hole deep enough to plant the torch and still be safe. Now for all of you that have tried this you know its not as easy as it might seem, the Missouri & Arkansas Ozarks have more rock than soil. Driving that pipe/stake into the ground and to get it deep enough can be difficult at best sometimes. So I went on the hunt for something that could be used when boon-docking and still give us the perimeter lighting needed for our campsite. I did some research on a product that was used years ago, called the Smudge Pot or Toledo Torch. The Smudge Pot is approximately 7.5" Diameter/6" Tall and weigh about 5.5 lbs each. They are rather heavy, but for safety reasons each Smudge Pot is weighted to stay in an up-right position. The Smudge Pots have a great burn time (24 hrs.) before a fuel refill is needed. In doing my search, I found that most of the companies that were producing the product are no longer around or they are imported in from china. Except one company, one of the first companies to produce the Smudge Pots years ago is still producing the product today here in the states. Fisher-Barton Company still produces a high quality Smudge Pot and if taken care of can last for years. The Fisher-Barton Smudge Pots run about $25.00 each. and can be ordered directly from Fisher-Barton. (Note: replacement parts and wicks are available from Fisher-Barton, so you can maintain your torch for years to come.) No special fuel required, standard Tiki Torch oil is all you need.

Just place the Smudge Pots around the campsite, fill'em and light'em.
NO HOLES TO DRIVE INTO ROCK!
:sombrero:

A Little History On Open Flame Torches:
Highway torches (a/k/a "smudge pots") have an obscure background but may be traced to the McCLOSKEY TORCH COMPANY,TOLEDO, OH, PAT'D DEC 14, 1926. It's unknown if that is a patent grant or application date, but the originals appear to be cast iron affairs. The best known were first produced in 1927/1928 by the Toledo Pressed Steel Company and others quickly followed (Dietz and Embury of course); Handlan made them and Piper sold 'em. Even non-lantern manufacturers, such as Shanklin, later Park Industries (Storm King), and Anthes (Flame Guard) got in on this business, as well as truck-lighting K-D Lamp Co. Their open flame required little maintenance and they also had long burning times. Large fuel capacity with easy filling , bright signal, as well as few parts (including no globe that needed to be cleaned) made them very popular with road contractors and highway departments. For many applications, particularly in rural areas with higher speed traffic, they began to displace lanterns. But in cities where low speed traffic and most water, gas, and other underground utility companies provided service, the lanterns ruled until transistors replaced them.

(Smudge Pots are still being made by Fisher Barton of Fountain Inn, SC.)

How do you light up your campsite perimeter?
 

CSG

Explorer
What DaktariEd said. What's the point of getting away from it all and lighting the place up like a white man?

If I need light in the dark it's very little and typically a small LED headlamp for moving about or a candle lantern for a bit wider area. Otherwise, I want to be part of the night and the stars.
 

skysix

Adventurer
Interesting post but I'm curious - why light up the perimeter? Kinda takes away from the night sky and makes camping in the boodocks more like staying at a commercial site... Initial chores etc need some lighting (more than what the smudge pots will provide) but after that adapting to night vision makes the camping experience much more interesting (Usually - a cloudy night in the desert or a mountain valley can be DARK)

If security (from wildlife or unwanted people) is the issue string tripwire a ways out to noisemakers or strobes and/or add an inner lighting zone (motion detector self contained LED floodlights you can hang or place on objects). If the LED floodlights have manual switches you can also use them for area lighting during setup / cooking. That said, cooking is best done WELL away from the camp in bear country.
 

crusader

Adventurer
I don't know what smudge pots are like when you burn that Tiki Torch oil in 'em, but in the Marines, we used them to take the shine off our rifle sights at the rifle range. I think we burned kerosene or diesel in them, producing a sooty, nasty, thick black smoke that stuck to everything. What a mess that would be to haul a bunch of them around with you.

Really all you need is a small light to find the beer cooler...
 

LilKJ

Adventurer
This ($5 or so at Wal-mart):

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Plus this:

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I always walk around with a headlamp on at camp... otherwise the little LED lantern works great to either hang int the tent or set on the table while people are eating and whatnot.
 

KG6BWS

Explorer
I don't either. A campfire and an led headlamp are good for me. If I really need to light something up, I've got a coleman lantern.
 

craig333

Expedition Leader
I used to light up the campsite. Had a couple of propane lanterns and a gas or two. Finally came to realize its not really necessary. I pretty much use my lanterns only when setting up camp or cooking anymore. Battery lanterns are great for those trips to the can.
 

UNI

Adventurer
Crusader Posted: I don't know what smudge pots are like when you burn that Tiki Torch oil in 'em

Yes we burn Citronella Oil in the Smudge Pots. They burn fairly clean with the citronella and we mainly use the Smudge Pots when we have a group of us camping.

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1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
Great history info...
Those are classic items I used to see in rural Texas growing up.

I have to agree with everyone else...the only area lighting is during setup and I use the roof rack side/rear lights along with an ARB Adventure Light 12vdc...after that it is a headlamp.
 

kjp1969

Explorer
What DaktariEd said. What's the point of getting away from it all and lighting the place up like a white man?

Agreed. This white man prefers to go native. If I wanted it light, I'd camp in a parking lot.

For "security," I'd rather stay dark, low profile, and keep good night vision.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
I like just the campfire after it is totally dark out.
I just have the lantern on while making sure the camp is secure before I retire to the chair in front of the fire for a few hours before hitting the sack.

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Overland Hadley

on a journey
A headlamp is standard for me, and most nights thats all I will use. If I am doing a lot of cooking I will use the ARB Adventure Light. I have a couple of candle lanterns that I use if it is really cold, no heat from them, but they "feel" warm.
 

Mr. Leary

Glamping Excursionaire
Agreed. This white man prefers to go native. If I wanted it light, I'd camp in a parking lot.

For "security," I'd rather stay dark, low profile, and keep good night vision.

Agreed. If you turn the lights off for 20 minutes, you will be able to see just fine! Human night vision isn't as bad as we think it is...
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
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Maybe Missouri isn't so freaked out by forest fires, but out west, we are pretty fearful of anything that might wipe out countless square miles of trees.

Looks like a bad idea to me.
 

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