James Baroud discontinued?

shock81

New member
Hi all,
After a few clicks on products, it appears their models are showing discontinued. Are they out of business? I couldn't find anything with a google search.
 

ttengineer

Adventurer
They have recently swapped US distributors, and I believe the website is still owned and operated by the old distributor.

They are also changing the models, or so I’ve heard, so new SKUs are being created I think.


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shoredreamer

Observer
Don’t bother with jamesbaroudusa.com anymore as it needs to be deleted for the interwebs.

Check out the shop I work at:
Or
for the most complete info and product line.

PM me too if you have specific questions.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Just saw this on facebook... as one person responded, "If this information is true, OK 4WD are asshats "

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ttengineer

Adventurer
There is a lot of bad blood.

Specifically between adventure ready and OK4WD, well Rin at least.

From what I gather a lot of it stems from a miscommunication with Rin and AR on a warranty replacement for a customer during the transition.

Wether it was intentional or not is not for me to speculate but it wasn’t pretty to watch unfold online.

The transition has also caused some rather long warranty claims for a few of us too, myself included.

I should be all set by December though so we will see.




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eatSleepWoof

Explorer
Just saw this on facebook... as one person responded, "If this information is true, OK 4WD are asshats "

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"After this breach of contract, OK 4WD took over the name of our company to create jamesbaroudusa.com without..."

A quick lookup of WHOIS information for that domain name (feel free to check yourself: at http://www.whois.net or a million similar services) shows that this domain name was created on 2013-01-03T15:22:21Z, which directly contradicts the statement made by James Baroud.

"This website allows OK 4WD to systematically and unequivocally discredit with our brand image and values with false consumer reviews"

I just browsed jamesbaroudusa.com: the homepage shows nothing but 5-star testimonials, and I don't see anything resembling reviews anywhere else.

Sure reads like a whole bunch of bullsh*t.
 
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rino

Supporting Sponsor - OK4WD
"After this breach of contract, OK 4WD took over the name of our company to create jamesbaroudusa.com without..."

A quick lookup of WHOIS information for that domain name (feel free to check yourself: at http://www.whois.net or a million similar services) shows that this domain name was created on 2013-01-03T15:22:21Z, which directly contradicts the statement made by James Baroud.

"This website allows OK 4WD to systematically and unequivocally discredit with our brand image and values with false consumer reviews"

I just browsed jamesbaroudusa.com: the homepage shows nothing but 5-star testimonials, and I don't see anything resembling reviews anywhere else.

Sure reads like a whole bunch of bullsh*t.

You are spot on. Rather than speak directly to us, settle outstanding debts and move on they have decided to slander and attack us online. We have been more than polite not exposing the their issues or taking legal action to date.
 

billiebob

My Uncle drove a government issued Jeep in Europe
Regardless of the mud slinging I still the James Baroud makes one of the best products out there.

Always way more to a story than either side is willing to state.

The battle is about marketing, sales rights in the USA.
Nothing to do with the product which is made in Portugal.
This is all about the lack of integrity among the USA distribution network.

If there was any truth to either sides story they would have won a massive lawsuit by now.
 
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eatSleepWoof

Explorer
Regardless of the mud slinging I still the James Baroud makes one of the best products out there.
Based on personal experience, and the experience of a close friend with brand new JB Explorer tents, I very much disagree and view the entire JB lineup as complete crap.

If there was any truth to either sides story they would have won a massive lawsuit by now.
This part is likely true; there are always details that both sides miss or intentionally omit, and other details that both sides understand/interpret in different ways.

The one theme I keep seeing (for a year now) is that JB and their new, west-coast lap dog keep starting social media mud-slinging again and again. Neither side has presented any evidence to back up their claims, but numerous dramatic things posted by JB were/are easily disproven. All things being equal, one side keeps starting drama, the other remains consistently professional. I find that how company representatives behave is frequently a good insight into the company itself.

Like you said, if there was something to be proven, it would be in courts by now. Since it's not, drama simply reeks of children's tantrums.
 

billiebob

My Uncle drove a government issued Jeep in Europe
Since this drama is all Born in the USA...
I'm curious how James Baroud is perceived in Europe, Africa, Australia.
I had one of the original clam shell designs on my YJ and loved it. I only sold it cuz I no longer want to climb the ladder.
After attending a few overland events I have yet to meet anyone critical of the JB performance.
 
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Oilbrnr

Active member
I had one of their products from 2014-16 that I purchased from OK. They were great to deal with, but the JB did not fair well during that time. Trim fell off, fan failed within 6 months, cracks all over the gel coat. Ladder mounts broke.

For the price, I was less than impressed.

The WHOIS is a telling find.
 

James Baroud Tents

Supporting Sponsor / Approved Vendor
I had one of their products from 2014-16 that I purchased from OK. They were great to deal with, but the JB did not fair well during that time. Trim fell off, fan failed within 6 months, cracks all over the gel coat. Ladder mounts broke.

For the price, I was less than impressed.

The WHOIS is a telling find.
Dear Oilbrnr,


did you claim for warranty?

Best regards
James Baroud
 

eatSleepWoof

Explorer
Trim fell off, fan failed within 6 months, cracks all over the gel coat. Ladder mounts broke.
In my ~8 months of light use and being parked underground:
- fan failed
- fabric developed quite literally hundreds of cracks in one of the layers (well known issue - found threads on Mud dating back to 2015 about this)
- all latches rusted
- all hardware at the bottom of the tent rusted
- gel coat cracked

They did eventually replace the tent with a new one (that I instantly sold), but not without a fight.
 
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