INEOS Grenadier

[nickw]

Decent short EXPO "detailed walk around" video but it skipped any discussion of range/fuel capacity. Using the "search" on this site I managed to find that the Grenadier has a 23-24 gallon gas tank (which would equate to 300-350mi loaded range on pavement?) and that the company may work with another mfr like LRA to offer an aux tank. IMO one of the top three reasons gas engine is undesirable for motorized camping is limited range and the industry's unwillingness/inability to offer larger gas tank standard or as an option is unfortunate. Hopefully Ineos will do this. Does anyone know of a North American company that manufactures well-made aux tanks for gas vehicles? I've found a couple custom outfits but tough to find any reviews on performance, quality, etc.

Transfer Flow offers gas fuel tanks for Ford 7.3's....

 

[SkiWill]

Long Range America (that might be who you meant by LRA) and Titan Tanks are both US-based large tank manufacturers.

Long Range America is an importer of Australian tanks, or at least they were 18 months ago. If they have started North American production, that would be news to me. In my experience looking for an LR4 tank, Long Range America was importing diesel tanks from Australia and those in the Land Rover community that purchased the tanks said that not a single fitting matched or lined up to the North America spec LR4s so a fair bit of fabrication and adjustment was required. A few that had competent installers were still happy with the outcome. I'm hoping that with the Grenadier, there will not be variation on the petrol spec between North American and ROW so that any aftermarket tanks will work without too much fuss.

 

[mk216v]

Long Range America is an importer of Australian tanks, or at least they were 18 months ago. If they have started North American production, that would be news to me. In my experience looking for an LR4 tank, Long Range America was importing diesel tanks from Australia and those in the Land Rover community that purchased the tanks said that not a single fitting matched or lined up to the North America spec LR4s so a fair bit of fabrication and adjustment was required. A few that had competent installers were still happy with the outcome. I'm hoping that with the Grenadier, there will not be variation on the petrol spec between North American and ROW so that any aftermarket tanks will work without too much fuss.

Add S&B to the American fuel tank manufacturers (diesel only though), and damn great quality/service.

Not surprised in regards to LRA. Having had their Sprinter tank "kit" splayed out and pro technicians trying to install it, it was a total joke of a kit, and no technical help at all from LRA-USA in regards to the installation puzzles (they straight up said we were on our own). S&B on the other hand is straightforward, proper instructions including video and no headaches.

Hoping the Grenadier comes with a tank larger than 25gal.

 

[2.ooohhh]

Patiently awaiting the US prices in the configurator. Cannot wait to see if I can build one in my price range. Everything I've seen on the grenadier seems to indicate it may be what I've been looking for something that can actually compete cost vs work wise with completely restoring and rebuilding my current D1 to very similar specs.

 

[ChasingOurTrunks]

Long Range America is an importer of Australian tanks, or at least they were 18 months ago. If they have started North American production, that would be news to me. In my experience looking for an LR4 tank, Long Range America was importing diesel tanks from Australia and those in the Land Rover community that purchased the tanks said that not a single fitting matched or lined up to the North America spec LR4s so a fair bit of fabrication and adjustment was required. A few that had competent installers were still happy with the outcome. I'm hoping that with the Grenadier, there will not be variation on the petrol spec between North American and ROW so that any aftermarket tanks will work without too much fuss.

Thanks Will; I didn't know that but always glad to learn more! I came across them a couple of years ago when I was looking for long range tank for my GM Canyon but didn't pursue it further. Interesting to learn how different the LR4 is worldwide by the sounds of it.

I agree with you on the variation - my understanding from Ineos is that the petrol Grenadier you purchase in California will be a part number-for-part number copy of the one you can buy in Capetown or Ulanbataar. The Diesel may be able to drop the Ad-Blue/DEF systems (like JLR did with the New Defender for South Africa) but I'm not sure - everything they've said out loud is that they want the same platform worldwide.

 

[Grassland]

There is no way this won't be pushing 100k CAD and there will giant swaths of Canada with no authorized or clued in service centers for many thousands of KM.
I'll check into Ineos in 5 more years and see how they come along

 

[naks]

There is no way this won't be pushing 100k CAD and there will giant swaths of Canada with no authorized or clued in service centers for many thousands of KM.
I'll check into Ineos in 5 more years and see how they come along

I priced one for ZAR1.7million on the online configurator, the middle spec model.

Works out to CAD 128815.56, but you can take off a good 30% for import duties & taxes.

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[naks]

probably the most balanced review I've seen so far

 

[billiebob]

Patiently awaiting the US prices in the configurator. Cannot wait to see if I can build one in my price range. Everything I've seen on the grenadier seems to indicate it may be what I've been looking for something that can actually compete cost vs work wise with completely restoring and rebuilding my current D1 to very similar specs.

Pretty sure like all the other fabulous SUVs not sold in North America, this will never see American shores.

 

[Beowulf]

Test drives start in April for Colorado

 

[SkiWill]

According to Motor Trend expect the Trialmaster (the only one I'm interested in) to start around $70,000: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...4DDBFAA71BC5B8C7644795A745FE87C246369302123EC

Honestly for that price point, it would be hard for me to choose the Grenadier over a lot of competitive offerings. I guess we'll see the official numbers relatively soon.

MT also indicated it would arrive in the US in the fall for whatever that's worth.

 

[BuckinghamBuilt]

I got to see (and touch) one at Overland Expo East and was impressed by the interior with the exception that the seats don't fold forward completely flat which may seem like a minor gripe but there is enough room for me to car camp but it would have to be at a slightly raised position.

I'm really interested in the official payload and towing numbers for a optioned IG. Its on my short lists of vehicles I'd purchase but I suspect low build numbers for the North American market which means heavily optioned (and heavy priced) units or they will go for over MSRP.

 

[naks]

probably the most balanced review I've seen so far

found on another forum, no wonder Johnny was complaining about the lack of space for his left leg:

I'd imagine your left leg would get quite toasty after an 8-hour drive through the Namibian dunes.

 

[DirtWhiskey]

I'm inclined to wait for 3rd or 4th gen, paranoid as I am. Let the quirks work out: parts avail, support, software, computers, window seals, drive train stuff, engine choice, pricing/avail. The chances that these don't become hyper expensive secondary market toys for rich people are very low IMHO. BTW at 70k it's a super good deal. I doubt that's the number, but that's loaded Rubicon territory nowadays. Cars cost lots now.

 

[mk216v]

According to Motor Trend expect the Trialmaster (the only one I'm interested in) to start around $70,000: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...4DDBFAA71BC5B8C7644795A745FE87C246369302123EC

Honestly for that price point, it would be hard for me to choose the Grenadier over a lot of competitive offerings. I guess we'll see the official numbers relatively soon.

MT also indicated it would arrive in the US in the fall for whatever that's worth.

What would you consider as a competitor at a $75k price point?


Are some of you suggesting that some of those early on the Reservation list, might purchase one just to re-sell it at a higher price to someone else waiting in line/eager for one?

I just recv'd an email from IA about the ability to drive one off-road (55min total time including possible RTI test) in the USA. Looks like they're starting next week in TX, then March in CA, then following months around the SE and SW, then finally up to the PNW in May. Some of their locations seem a bit bizarre to me; FL and GA 1-2months before OR/WA? I'd think there'd be more potential customers in the NW than SE. This detail is making me think they're following potential G-Wagen mall crawler off-road wannabe's, who have the funds for an expensive vehicle and dream about going off-road with it, but will instead just be hitting up the country club?(yes, I'm generalizing in regards to the Grenadier, but sadly because I know the G-Wagen market in the USA has sadly trended this way for too long)