I just bought a firetruck for a custom overland build!

Joe917

Explorer
Be careful. A new habitat and complete rebuild may change the "manufacturing date" to the present making it ineligible for import. Get legal advise.
 

gregmchugh

Observer
I have heard of Krug...I believe they are based in Ukraine which is partially why they can offer such competitively priced builds. I would like to speak with someone who has long term experience with one of their builds.
World Roamers on Facebook have been traveling in a Krug they had built for a couple years.
 

Chuckles!

Observer
I can't help you with cabin manufacturers, but on the air suspension/rear steering aspect, there is a man in Chile that has been building an AK 2626 for ten (10!) years in the hopes of traveling around the world. He is very intimate with the chassis and has rebuilt many components himself. Have a look on this 40-page thread on the trials and tribulations of building such a beast in South America:

 

Christian P.

Expedition Leader
Staff member
Or not... not even sure how to find this thread without the link you provided :/

 

Geo.Lander

Well-known member
Wow! a total beast for sure! Welcome to the MB community, you seem to already know your stuff. We bought out truck end of 2020 and knew absolutely zero in regards to trucks. We got tons of project steering advice here and are very thankful for that.
One word of warning, we have a build slot with a UK based firm called Atkinson Voss (great to work with) but due to supply issues from the window manufacturer (Outbound) we are delayed by 6 months! So be prepared for that. Before we locked in our slot some EU based Box manufacturers were giving us 2 year lead times for a professionally built subframe and box...
 

Sitec

Adventurer
Loving that truck! I'd ship it into the US as it is, and then build the box to suit it when you have a bare chassis in front of you. That way you can plan the build around the truck you have and dont have the issues of importing 'new' or 'old'. With a bare chassis cab in front of you, it's much easier to work out exactly where you want stuff as you can visualise it all. Following with interest.
 

NOFOMO

Member
I would recommend talking to HaJo and Andreas at Boxmanufaktur.

They are located near Bremen (Denmark adjacent) in Germany and also have a location in Las Vegas in case you change your plan and have the habitat built after import.

They are not the cheapest, but from my own experience, their work is super on the price to value spectrum.

Here is my box from them receiving final touches prior to assembly in 2019.
They do everything from small pickup cabs to oligarch monsters.

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Geo.Lander

Well-known member
I would recommend talking to HaJo and Andreas at Boxmanufaktur.

They are located near Bremen (Denmark adjacent) in Germany and also have a location in Las Vegas in case you change your plan and have the habitat built after import.

They are not the cheapest, but from my own experience, their work is super on the price to value spectrum.

Here is my box from them receiving final touches prior to assembly in 2019.
They do everything from small pickup cabs to oligarch monsters.

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I must disagree with this comment, your truck looks amazing but the lead time and pricing for Boxmanufaktur was crazy, even the high end guys like AluStar etc seemed cheaper. I also had a pretty hard time getting responses from them and they failed to answer and engage with me as a potential customer. I found this pattern quite common from most of the German based manufactures in late 2020, I suppose they have more than enough work and can pick and choose customers.
I must of gotten quotes from at least a dozen of the companies in Germany and a couple in Austria, and the pattern persisted. Maybe it is because I ask annoying questions or maybe they just do not like talking english with an annoying Greek who they look down on, who knows..
My recommendation is Atkinson Voss in the UK. Their prices are very fair and they build proper off-road subframes and talk you through the whole process, provide CAD drawings and engage in custom solutions that meet your requirements. It is a joy working with them. Ask for Simon or Paul.
 

NOFOMO

Member
I must disagree with this comment, your truck looks amazing but the lead time and pricing for Boxmanufaktur was crazy, even the high end guys like AluStar etc seemed cheaper. I also had a pretty hard time getting responses from them and they failed to answer and engage with me as a potential customer. I found this pattern quite common from most of the German based manufactures in late 2020, I suppose they have more than enough work and can pick and choose customers.
I must of gotten quotes from at least a dozen of the companies in Germany and a couple in Austria, and the pattern persisted. Maybe it is because I ask annoying questions or maybe they just do not like talking english with an annoying Greek who they look down on, who knows..
My recommendation is Atkinson Voss in the UK. Their prices are very fair and they build proper off-road subframes and talk you through the whole process, provide CAD drawings and engage in custom solutions that meet your requirements. It is a joy working with them. Ask for Simon or Paul.
Sorry to hear about your experience Geo.Lander.

As it was my first build, I had tons of questions (some probably stupid ones too).

They had to coordinate between Hellgeth, who made the custom subframe and my builder Joko, while I was far away in the Staates. Still amazed that it all came fitting together as it did.

When everything was complete, they picked me up at the Hamburg airport and also lent me their temporary plates for the drive to the builder (most companies don’t do that).

All the best with your project and decision. Definitely a cool truck.

P.S.: I had a similarly negative experience with Krug at Abenteuer Allrad. Their exhibition site was fairly deserted, yet they made every attempt not to engage with me. They didn’t even make it to the quotation phase….
 

pairospam

Observer
Hi, OvrlndN00b:

First of all, congratulations for your purchase. That is really nice monster and a great base to plan a big tour around the globe.

Now, probably you know it, though, you must be able to cope with all the work that needs to be done, both with brain and with hands, and have enough patience and funds to get to the finish line as properly upgrading and fitting this kind of old pieces of machinery is a quite demanding task.

Just because you asked: forget about rear steering. Period.

The engine is a V8 with double turbo, so you have revs and most of the torque management relies on the gearbox. I personally do not like automatic gearboxes because I cannot fix them, I do not understand them very well, but they can prove to be very pleasant to drive around, even in rough terrain. They are - sorry- they were designed back in those days to last longer than the engine itself so, if this truck has been properly treated and maintained, there should be no problem as long as the truck itself do not fall apart.

About consumption: I assume that you do not worry about that, otherwise you would not have even looked at this truck.

Upgrading the suspension with air things is not an issue if properly done, of course. Maybe you do not even need it.

In my own project, still ongoing, I took a different approach and planned and designed myself the Box or Habitat and contacted a german firm that built the composite panels and made them ship the panels home. It was a decent deal and they delivered timely and the quality of their work was pretty good. I - still- plan to build myself the base-subframe of the Box on a four point torsion free concept.

The possibilities are not that finite, if you think, it all depends on your will, your skills, your hurry and your budget.

Hope you have a great time building this thing and driving it around.

Keep posting progresses.


Pairoa
 

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