Grand Canyon: Tapeats, Deer and Kanab Creeks - FAIL

shade

Well-known member
I have too far to drive to count on runoff, but that would be a good way to get in there lightly. Maybe plan it out so you could go hard to a more reliable source if puddle grazing didn't work out.

I've comfortably carried 10L of water (maybe more, I'll have to check) and the rest of my kit in a Zpack's Arc Haul Zip pack, and I still have an old 80L Gregrory if I decide to go crazy. The nice thing about targeting Indian Garden is having reliable water for the hike out.
 

GB_Willys_2014

Well-known member
@shade please be sure to read @jgaz thread on his latest trip and IG water issues:


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Update: now that I had my first post-op appointment, I will share the latest diagnosis: fractured fibula and "shattered ankle". I am not sure that "shattered ankle" is an official clinical term, but that is a direct quote.

Apparently, the surgeon wasn't quite prepared for the number of bone fragments to be cleaned up ...

Anyhow, none of this changes the prognosis. Six weeks of cast/boot and then PT.

Pink for my daughter and breast cancer awareness month.

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A couple of other things:

- I have all sorts of pictures of my ankle on day 0, 7 and 14. I will not post them because in a word, they are gross.

- I know it is ultimately irrelevant, but still a mystery to me how I managed to f@@k myself up so badly.

- My Jeep is down too with a leaking front driver's said axle seal, and a bad thermostat. Odd huh?

My local mechanic was able to get in this week, and I decided to also splurge with some other upgrades: Fox shocks, new springs and a big brake kit.
 

zelseman

Observer
Yeah, 100% agree on the surgery. I suppose it's like anything else, buy once cry once. Do it right the first time.

Have you done the Grandview-Tonto-BA route before?

I completed it with my buddy (same guy as above) in 2009. A couple of thoughts if you don't mind:

- We spent our first night on Horseshoe Mesa. The closest water is at Miner's Spring. And it is a major PITA to get water, because the trail is very steep and demanding. IIRC, the round trip is over a mile.

- In addition to the East Grandview Trail, there is also a West trail descending from the Mesa to the Tonto. The Grandview Trail takes you by Miner's Spring. The West Trail is adjacent to Cottonwood Creek.

- If Cottonwood Creek is running, I would try to spend my first night there.

- We had real hard time finding the Tonto Trail after exiting a drainage, a couple of miles East of the S. Kaibab Junction. We did not have GPS on this trip.

- There is a natural water source (name escapes me) on the Tonto, about 1.5 mile West of the S. Kaibab Junction. BUT, the water source is considered to be too radioactive for non-emergency consumption.

- We hauled our water after topping off at Miner's Spring, and completed the Tonto section in one day, Grandview Junction to Indian Garden, with a detour to Bright Angel - completely unnecessary but we did it anyhow.

This is a fantastic hike. Enjoy!
We have done this same trip and you will have to carry water, lots of water. There was basically no monsoon season this year and the Tonto is dry. This hike requires carrying a ton in a normal year. Cottonwood is a reliable source IMHO and I think the other source you are thinking of is Cremation Creek and it is hit or miss. We hiked this route in April 2018 and there was usable water there, but someone we talked to on BA last week said they had to scramble a bit to find it. Water is also off for the season on the Bright Angel Trail per NPS Facebook. They got single digits at Indian Garden when we left at the beginning of the week, so obviously be prepared for anything weather wise. Good luck and have a good trip!
 

shade

Well-known member
We have done this same trip and you will have to carry water, lots of water. There was basically no monsoon season this year and the Tonto is dry. This hike requires carrying a ton in a normal year. Cottonwood is a reliable source IMHO and I think the other source you are thinking of is Cremation Creek and it is hit or miss. We hiked this route in April 2018 and there was usable water there, but someone we talked to on BA last week said they had to scramble a bit to find it. Water is also off for the season on the Bright Angel Trail per NPS Facebook. They got single digits at Indian Garden when we left at the beginning of the week, so obviously be prepared for anything weather wise. Good luck and have a good trip!
Thanks. If it doesn't warm up, I may ditch GC and head elsewhere. If it's going to be cold, I want to be wearing crampons or snowshoes.
 
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