Gaia vs Onx

Zuber

Active member
The Open Source maps are excellent. Is there any of these iOS or Droid based apps that can use them?

I also have a Garmin 276cX (the smallest chart plotter), I bought it with no base map and down loaded the Open Source map. This is a real GPS tool. Of course it was $500.
 

tall

New member
The Open Source maps are excellent. Is there any of these iOS or Droid based apps that can use them?
I've been using OsmAnd+ for a few months and it seems pretty good. Android and iOS. I'm using it in conjunction with Avenza (for my local geo/pdf maps like MVUM). The Openstreets maps are great and the layers and routing offerings are decent. It's a little clunky UI-wise, but it seems even the pro apps (I had planned on signing up for Gaia after a trial subscription but changed those plans when they killed their multi-year subscription deal) still have usability issues.
 

DaveInDenver

Luddite
The Open Source maps are excellent. Is there any of these iOS or Droid based apps that can use them?

I also have a Garmin 276cX (the smallest chart plotter), I bought it with no base map and down loaded the Open Source map. This is a real GPS tool. Of course it was $500.
Do you mean OpenStreetMaps? On Android I like OruxMaps since it can use OSM maps in Mapsforge format.

https://oruxmaps.com/cs/en/

https://www.openandromaps.org/en

It also has a PDF rendering engine and can display georeferenced PDFs (GeoPDF). So you have the option to show USFS MVUMs, BLM travel plans, National Park maps.

On iOS I personally use Caltopo, which has the option to use OSM as a baselayer. Although their Mapbuilder Topo I think is fine and for extra information I'll layer the USFS FSTopo on top or MVUM. But I also have Maps.Me on it, which seems just to be OSM data. But they organize the maps by state so it's easy to maintain on the phone.

https://maps.me/maps/
 
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DaveInDenver

Luddite
Yup, Open Street Maps. In the West USA they are very accurate and detailed. Works great in my 276Cx and as the base map for Garmin's POS BaseCamp.

Not sure if you're aware but the person (known as Lambertus) who ran that website seems to have abandoned it for some unknown reason. The custom map queue is coming up on two years long and no longer working.


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There's alternatives to get or make Garmin IMG maps from the OSM database.

BBBike extracts: https://extract.bbbike.org/
Gamin Opentopo: https://garmin.opentopomap.org/
GmapTool (Andrzej Popowski): https://www.gmaptool.eu/en/content/usa-osm-topo-routable
 
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nickw

Adventurer
I've been using Gaia for the last year, via their premium subscription. However, sometimes I find their maps lacking in detail for hiking trails. For example, I just spent a week camping at O'Leno State Park (Florida). Gaia basically shows two trails (the park is full of trails).
I just downloaded the free trial of onX Backcountry and for the same area, it shows many more trails. I've tried all the seemingly relevant map layers in Gaia to no
avail. . .very disappointing. As another example, I live a block from some trailheads. Gaia shows nothing while onX Backcountry shows many (but not all) of the trails I hike here regularly.
A minor workaround for finding trails is to download the user track overlays (I forget what they call it) which is generally more relevant for motosport users, but people can upload their tracks and you can see live/actual coordinates.

I used it on some backcountry moto trips, I had the base maps and MVUM's, but doing an overlay of actual GPS track data from other users give a more realistic snapshot of where the maps are wrong and/or where their are other trails not shown. OnX may have that option but found it super useful on Gaia....
 
Overland bound has an app that seems to "do everything" it sounds interesting but i haven't figured out what the mapping siftware is that accompanys the ther features? truthfully i haven't looked that hard yet. I owuld be interested in what others think of their approach and what is know about thei mapping?
 

Ubiety

New member
In the process of switching to onX from Gaia; I appreciate onX's merged maps over Gaia's layering approach - Gaia does seem to have far more map types available in the premium membership; however the onX maps give me exactly what I want in a package that is easy to view. I do a lot of planning on the web before using my i-devices to navigate; Gaia's web site is really buggy and fails me a lot of the time - just this morning it would not display assets in a folder that I was hoping to work on for an upcoming adventure, the onX site seems to do as advertised - always. I like onX's UI far better than Gaia's - onX has some catching up to do feature-wise but it seems like they are improving things while Gaia remains stagnant. onX's support is way over the top helpful while you are lucky to hear back from Gaia's support in less than a week or two. Anyway its still a bit of a tossup but I am rooting for onX!
 
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