F150 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package?

[phsycle]

I know HDPP is available on 6.5 Supercrew but not with max payload, something closer to 2800lbs (which is still the best on a half ton). Also had a Ford dude say the 3k plus payloads are on only the reg cab work truck. Ford states: "*Max payload on F-150 XL Regular Cab, 8’ box, 5.0L V8 4x2, Heavy-Duty Payload Package".

I have read that HDPP is a unicorn and really hard to find. Might be easier to find a 3/4 ton with that capability and not that much bigger or more expensive truck. Also the main attraction for me to the F150 is the ecoboost 3.5 but they don't do that with the HDPP only the V8. We have rented a few in the transit and LOVE that engine.

Are you in Canada? Your profile says SLC, the same state as I am in. For the US, you can get an F150, 3.5 Eco, 4WD, HDPP (there is no “max payload pkg”), max tow in the Supercrew 6.5’ bed.

Just build one up on the Ford site if you’re still confused.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Aside from the ecoboost why are you guys so hung up on this high payload 150 rather than a 3/4 ton?

Better fuel ecomony
Better ride quality
A couple thousand cheaper to buy
Better turning radius
Fits in more parking garages

 

[IdaSHO]

The ride quality is a big one.

Superduties are real trucks... built to haul.

Empty, you know it....

 

[D45]

Better fuel ecomony
Better ride quality
A couple thousand cheaper to buy
Better turning radius

Better ride than four corner coils?

13.5 mpg is better?

 

[phsycle]

Better ride than four corner coils?

13.5 mpg is better?

Are you getting 13.5 mpg in your Chevy 1/2 ton?
I know you got 13 in your old Ford, which was an anomaly.

 

[D45]

Are you getting 13.5 mpg in your Chevy 1/2 ton?
I know you got 13 in your old Ford, which was an anomaly.

Much more than that......18.5 to 20

My friend has a Tremor single cab 3.5 also......he can't get over 15 mpg

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Better ride than four corner coils?

13.5 mpg is better?

I had the Max Tow and HDPP with the 3.5 and never got that low, unless I was towing an enclosed trailer.

And yes... A better ride.

 

[phsycle]

Much more than that......18.5 to 20

My friend has a Tremor single cab 3.5 also......he can't get over 15 mpg

My old 2.7Eco got 24 all day, and 22 after I upgraded to 33” tires. A neighbor had an older 3.5 (2012) and he never got above 17. But I think he had a pretty heavy foot.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

My old 2.7Eco got 24 all day, and 22 after I upgraded to 33” tires.

Same here, I have no problem getting 24-25 on the HW doing 70. I just went from Florida - Boston and then back to Florida and turned around and had to head to New Mexico and back. I did 80 damn near the whole way and never got under 20mpg.

 

[jonathon]

The 2.7 is completely different than the 3.5 in terms of fuel economy. My suspicion is a 3.5 4x4 with any sort of max tow or payload package isn’t going to see dramatically better fuel economy than a 250/2500. Looking at Fuelly for a 2019 F150 with the 3.5 the average is right at 15 MPG. That of course is not broken down by cab, driveline, or other specs.

Ride quality on the Ram 2500 is really good, especially with proper tire pressure. The only negative for me is the fuel economy sucks, sitting at 12.6 steady right now. So a 3.5 Ecoboost would probably get me 1.4 to 2 MPG but I would lose the solid front axle, long bed, tow capacity, and payload. At 10,000 miles a year and $3 a gallon for fuel it’s about $380 extra to drive the 2500.

 

[DirtWhiskey]

Are you in Canada? Your profile says SLC, the same state as I am in. For the US, you can get an F150, 3.5 Eco, 4WD, HDPP (there is no “max payload pkg”), max tow in the Supercrew 6.5’ bed.

Just build one up on the Ford site if you’re still confused.

Not confused at all (although payload claims are sometimes confusing). Payload is variable based on curb weight. Base weight means things. Here is the Ford chart for 2019. 3.5 ecoboost maxes out at 2650lbs in payload with the HDPP. The 5.0 is almost at 3k with the longer wheelbase. The 4x2 work truck (barebones) will always have the highest payload because it has less junk.

This makes me want Ford to make a 5.0 ecoboost or something and put it in the f250 and f350. Turbo gas is fun.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

The 2.7 is completely different than the 3.5 in terms of fuel economy. My suspicion is a 3.5 4x4 with any sort of max tow or payload package isn’t going to see dramatically better fuel economy than a 250/2500. Looking at Fuelly for a 2019 F150 with the 3.5 the average is right at 15 MPG. That of course is not broken down by cab, driveline, or other specs.

Ride quality on the Ram 2500 is really good, especially with proper tire pressure. The only negative for me is the fuel economy sucks, sitting at 12.6 steady right now. So a 3.5 Ecoboost would probably get me 1.4 to 2 MPG but I would lose the solid front axle, long bed, tow capacity, and payload. At 10,000 miles a year and $3 a gallon for fuel it’s about $380 extra to drive the 2500.

Oh...I know the 2.7 and 3.5 differ in fuel economy... hence why I own a 2.7 ;-)

Fulley is cool and all, but it has never accurately told me what a vehicle that I own will get when it comes to fuel economy. It's always off (low) by couple of MPG.

Also, both EcoBoost engines are very, very sensitive to the drivers right foot. Paying attention to the boost gauge is the easiest way to increase fuel economy.

 

[McCarthy]

My dad has a 2019 3.5 eco, and gets 19-21mpg depending how much city is mixed in, his last truck was a 2017 gasser F250 and would get 12-14mpg. Swears up and down the 3.5 tows an 8000lb travel trailer better too. Makes perfect sense, the 6.2 has 385hp, 430ft/lbs and a 6 speed tranny, the eco has 375hp, and 470 ft lbs, with a 10 speed tranny.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

My dad has a 2019 3.5 eco, and gets 19-21mpg depending how much city is mixed in, his last truck was a 2017 gasser F250 and would get 12-14mpg. Swears up and down the 3.5 tows an 8000lb travel trailer better too. Makes perfect sense, the 6.2 has 385hp, 430ft/lbs and a 6 speed tranny, the eco has 375hp, and 470 ft lbs, with a 10 speed tranny.

The 3.5 tows very well, far better than most would ever think. It has far more "low end grunt" than a NA V8.

 

[McCarthy]

The 3.5 tows very well, far better than most would ever think. It has far more "low end grunt" than a NA V8.

I absolutely love mine. I've owned a 2013, 17, 18, and 19, all 3.5 eco's. Have driven many 5.0l's and they're just absolute dogs compared to the eco's.