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F150 vs Tundra....I’ll make a decision tomorrow

Dalko43

Explorer
You would think. Except you don’t hear guys raving about their steel toed work boots much because its just part of the tool kit for the job. I’d say the Ford, Dodge and GM full sized truck are like the boots everyone has one, uses one or depends on one big whoop?


I'd say they're more like Big Mac's...everyone has tried one at one point, but there isn't a whole that makes them unique or desirable as burgers. They're good enough most of that time that there is a loyal consumer following, but they're still designed, built and sold at price point where you can't complain too much if you have a sh#$y experience.

Then you have the city slickers with the Toyotas, Texas packages and Baja toys that rave like school girls at a boy band concert. Lol


I've never followed this innuendo...why is it that GM, Ford and FCA fanboys think only "city-slickers" drive Toyotas?

 

Huntv

Member
I'd say they're more like Big Mac's...everyone has tried one at one point, but there isn't a whole that makes them unique or desirable as burgers. They're good enough most of that time that there is a loyal consumer following, but they're still designed, built and sold at price point where you can't complain too much if you have a sh#$y experience.



I've never followed this innuendo...why is it that GM, Ford and FCA fanboys think only "city-slickers" drive Toyotas?
Your absolutely correct...I would guess most of them are from the cities themselves. I live in a rural mountain valley where we hunt, fish, and work hard for a living. I see a lot of Tundras in the woods, as well as the big 3. We could care less about 1/4 mile times and bling on our trucks. We all wave at each other and don’t get caught up in the small stuff. Buy whatever truck makes you happy and respect that others will do the same. If you (not you Dalko) find yourself feeling the need to bash someone because of the truck they drive to make yourself feel better, then it’s time for some self reflection...or meds.

Btw...Tundras are the most reliable and best built trucks period, f150s are the ford escorts of trucks! Ha
 

motoboss

Bad Influence
I bought a 2019 F150 4x4 Supercab with the 3.3L and 6 speed trans. I love it! Not a power boss but for a daily driver and part time work truck it fits the bill.
Wanted the 3.5 EB but scared of the 10 speed transmission, way to many bad reviews and even a class action suit filed over failures.
A 3.5EB and 6 speed would be winner!
 

EcoBoosted

Director of Adventure Management Operations
I bought a 2019 F150 4x4 Supercab with the 3.3L and 6 speed trans. I love it! Not a power boss but for a daily driver and part time work truck it fits the bill.
Wanted the 3.5 EB but scared of the 10 speed transmission, way to many bad reviews and even a class action suit filed over failures.
A 3.5EB and 6 speed would be winner!
What's funny about the 10 speed is many of the complaints (ie. skipping gears) revolve around it working properly....lol
 

Dalko43

Explorer
Your absolutely correct...I would guess most of them are from the cities themselves. I live in a rural mountain valley where we hunt, fish, and work hard for a living. I see a lot of Tundras in the woods, as well as the big 3. We could care less about 1/4 mile times and bling on our trucks. We all wave at each other and don’t get caught up in the small stuff. Buy whatever truck makes you happy and respect that others will do the same. If you (not you Dalko) find yourself feeling the need to bash someone because of the truck they drive to make yourself feel better, then it’s time for some self reflection...or meds.

Btw...Tundras are the most reliable and best built trucks period, f150s are the ford escorts of trucks! Ha
Whenever I go into rural country...the type of areas where there is more than 70 miles between fuel stations and repair shops are almost non-existent...I see a fair # of brands. The domestic brands (perhaps excepting some of the 3/4 tons) look like they're on the verge of becoming scrap metal; the Toyota's generally look to be in good working order.

Historically, Ford, GM and FCA have built decent vehicles which lacked longevity...time will tell if this new generation will be any different, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
 

rajacat

Active member
Is there any data out which supports the claim of Toyota longevity? The problem is longevity is a moving target because manufactures are continually improving their products. This photo doesn't say much for Toyota durability. This rust issue extended to Tundras too.
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EcoBoosted

Director of Adventure Management Operations
Is there any data out which supports the claim of Toyota longevity? The problem is longevity is a moving target because manufactures are continually improving their products. This photo doesn't say much for Toyota durability. This rust issue extended to Tundras too.
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While I don't doubt that the Tundra is "more reliable" that statement should not be taken as "all other trucks are unreliable" ... That's something Toyota fan boys need to remember.
 

Dalko43

Explorer
Is there any data out which supports the claim of Toyota longevity? The problem is longevity is a moving target because manufactures are continually improving their products. This photo doesn't say much for Toyota durability. This rust issue extended to Tundras too.
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That's literally the one example the Ford, FCA and GM fanboys like to point to...yes the frame rot was a big deal, no one will dispute that.

The difference between Toyota and the domestics is that Toyota went out of its way to replace all the bad frames, and arguably even some that weren't bad, to uphold its reputation and make good on its product. Why don't you go talk to 6.0 Powerstroke owners or Ram 1500 and 2500 owners who have had longterm transmission issues...go see how they fared on their truck ownership experience. Crappy dealership experience and bad warranty coverage is well known with many of the domestics...and I'll take a few less mpg's and slightly outdated interior any day of the week if it means that I don't have to haggle with some service rep over why my vehicle won't get fixed.

Part of the reason the domestics change 2-3 generations for every 1 generation of Toyota is that they want customers to keep buying new trucks rather than hang onto them for 6-10 years and see how shoddy the build quality is. Also these "generational" changes really don't change the vehicles that much...same basic architecture with some slightly new interior tech, and different body panels. The brand new F-150 and Ram 1500 is remarkably similar to the 'aged' Tundra in terms of underlying platform design...the people who tip their nose at the Tundra because its a dinosaur focus on the superficial appearances and amenities rather than the chassis components.
 

Huntv

Member
I would much rather have a 30 year old truck rust out than a new truck spontaneously combust while driving with the family!:ROFLMAO:
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