ExPo: G-Wagen Registry

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
I too have heard about how hard beadlocks are to balance, but have also read somewhere that the key is road force balancing so I didn't even bother with a regular balance, just paid a few bucks extra for the road force balance the first time and it worked great. Had it doing 90mph on the highway yesterday (accidentally, slowed down when I realized) and no wheel hop.
The balance issue with the Hutchinson beadlocks is due to Hutchinson having designed/spec'd the centerbore of their wheels a few mm larger than the hub nose of the G, causing vibrations thru the steering wheel at 58mph+. Tony at Motorsports (Hutchinson dealer, G nut) in Portland, OR and I went round and round with Hutchinson on this, providing hub nose measurements from multiple different years of G's--all had the same diameter. Hutchinson came back and told us our info was false, their engineers were correct. BS. No idea why a huge entity like Hutchinson, a gov't/military contractor, can't make the centerbore of a wheel true to the vehicle. :cautious:

We tried adding different thicknesses of tapes to the center bore of the Hutchies to take up the gap, as well as Counteract beads inside the tire, and these worked overall, however at random times I'd still get ghost vibes (mostly when going up a steep pass, under moderate throttle).

I believe Tony is just now finalizing an insert to make up this difference. Would I buy Hutchinson's again? Doubtful.
 

Speedkills

Member
Thanks for the explanation, that is unfortunate. My Tibus balanced easily but I would hesitate to buy them again or recommend them as well, six months later I still don't have my spare wheel or center caps from them.
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Thanks for the explanation, that is unfortunate. My Tibus balanced easily but I would hesitate to buy them again or recommend them as well, six months later I still don't have my spare wheel or center caps from them.
Unfortunate indeed.
Ugh, sounds like really poor service. Unfortunately that's typical anymore from a lot of companies.
 

Eric Edwards

Adventurer
My 2012 G-550 is almost complete. It’s been a five year process and I have loved every minute of it. A special thanks to to the following people for all your advice and help!!
Paul May- Equipt 1
Jack - Jackwagon Overland
Patricia- G-Wagon Accessories
Steve Hayes- Frontrunner
Jim Markel - Redoxx Manufacturing
Which fridge slide is that? I have the FR drawer system and was thinking of doing something similar!
 

driftaholic

New member
Here's my 2nd G a 2004, I posted earlier in this thread (years ago) my first a 2002. I also experience ghost vibrations and have Hutchinson's but so far I think it's a slightly notchy U-Joint in the rear driveshaft. We were able to balance my Hutchinson's with about 2OZ per wheel though the tires despite being K02's were slightly out of round. I'll check my hub bore diameters and compare but I don't recall any play when mounting the wheels. I'll gladly buy any hubcentric adapters when offered.

 

harto

New member
Here's my new-to-me 2019 G550 at home in Brooklyn, Imogene pass, top of the Golconda mining site, and Lockhart Basin, respectively. Definitely picked up some new scratches on the first few miles of lockhart basin coming out of Moab.

A couple notes for posterity:
- 50mm letech springs + 285/65-18 don't rub
- The g-wagenaccessories.com frontrunner roof rack brackets are a better fit than FRO brackets, you can't align the roof rack properly with the FRO brackets.
- the iKamper mounts with no noise or rattles using https://www.mcmaster.com/47065T721/ and https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/hard-shell-tent-mount-brackets.html *without* the W-shaped bars.
- Lockhart basin is really hard. don't go alone like I did.


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nomada1

Member
awesome looking G! Which FrontRunner wind fairing did you install? Does it help with highway noise? I really want to install one but wasn’t sure on the correct one to order that would fit the gwagon FrontRunner rack (tall version).
 

harto

New member
awesome looking G! Which FrontRunner wind fairing did you install? Does it help with highway noise? I really want to install one but wasn’t sure on the correct one to order that would fit the gwagon FrontRunner rack (tall version).
I bought the fairing through jackwagonoverlanding: https://jackwagonoverlanding.com/collections/roof-racks/products/front-runner-wind-fairing

I'm 99.5% sure it's this: https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/wind-fairing-1475mm.html

I've never tried to run the rack without the fairing, so hard to say on highway noise. Generally, my experience is that the new Gs are pretty sound-proof with the windows up, and noisy as hell with the windows down - whether or not you have a pile of gear on a roof rack above you.
 

nomada1

Member
I bought the fairing through jackwagonoverlanding: https://jackwagonoverlanding.com/collections/roof-racks/products/front-runner-wind-fairing

I'm 99.5% sure it's this: https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/wind-fairing-1475mm.html

I've never tried to run the rack without the fairing, so hard to say on highway noise. Generally, my experience is that the new Gs are pretty sound-proof with the windows up, and noisy as hell with the windows down - whether or not you have a pile of gear on a roof rack above you.
Thanks for the info!
I will give jackwagonoverlanding a shout.
 

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