My neighbor is the GM at the local DRCJ dealership and now drives a new JL rubicon. I get to see it everyday, it still is not growing on me. I liked the TJ's the first time I saw one and I liked the JK's the first time I saw one. There is just something about the JL that is not doing it for me. I have had 4 jk's including 3 rubicons. I was waiting impatiently for the JL hoping it was going to wow me as the extra mpg would be nice, but according to my neighbor he is not getting much better than I am. Looked at the jl 2 door yesterday for the first time and it does look better than the 4 door jl.