Clutch’s deep thoughts thread...

The aluminum boat isn't a bad idea if you can also carry a small tiller outboard to attach when you get it down. These guys do that very thing down in Australia, they keep it mounted to the top of their trailer but I see them dragging it along in nearly every video.

Oh yeah, I'm not going to try and row the boat and fish. Been there, done that. It sucked. I spent more time rowing to try and keep from drifting into the weeds than I did casting.

Hmm.. I've never seen that Explore 4x4 series before. Looks good! I'll have to check it out.
 

Clutch

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For me the classic car was 'replaced' with a trailer for camping. I still want a boat to go fishing with. Thinking a small aluminum boat that I can toss on a boat rack so I can still tow the trailer.... Sort of in between these set ups..

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What would that be, a 19' TT and a diesel Colorado? Guys who tow with them seem to be happy and return half way decent mileage for a daily.


Do like those Casitas, but find the textile they use on the walls a bit weird. See it as a dust collector.
 
What would that be, a 19' TT and a diesel Colorado? Guys who tow with them seem to be happy and return half way decent mileage for a daily.


Do like those Casitas, but find the textile they use on the walls a bit weird. See it as a dust collector.
Actually the Colorado isn't on my radar. No real reason why not. Seems like a good truck but.... meh. Thinking when the time comes of looking at Tacomas, Rangers and Gladiators. (Taco tow rating has me concerned. Ranger and Gladiator are 1,000 lbs more) And yes, about a 19' TT. But, who knows what will happen between now and then. Really, I'm just day dreaming, lol
 

Clutch

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Actually the Colorado isn't on my radar. No real reason why not. Seems like a good truck but.... meh. Thinking when the time comes of looking at Tacomas, Rangers and Gladiators. (Taco tow rating has me concerned. Ranger and Gladiator are 1,000 lbs more) And yes, about a 19' TT. But, who knows what will happen between now and then. Really, I'm just day dreaming, lol
The Collie is about the only one that gets decent mileage out of all of them was my thought. Prices aren't too bad either...finding them in the low 30's here. But they are a bit on the "meh" side. Chevy has such a poor track record for a while now, not sure I would trust it over the long haul.

Think I told you before, neighbor had a DCSB Tacoma with the good engine...the 4.0, It looked miserable towing his 19 footer just down the street, guessing it wouldn't be fun up on the highway.

Did check out the new Ranger last week at the Sportsman Show, nice truck...that particular truck was $40K. Think I rather have a fullsize at that price, and especially hearing the mpg numbers they are getting.

Dunno, the more I look at the new stuff, the more I like my old crap... :D

Looked at the Four Wheel Campers, IIRC they had two Hawks on display. Nice, but spendy for such a small space and the storage is horrid. Out of all the campers there, I liked the small off-road traditional style popup trailer the best, which surprised me. A lot of room in a small package, and not bad of a price either.
 
Think I told you before, neighbor had a DCSB Tacoma with the good engine...the 4.0, It looked miserable towing his 19 footer just down the street, guessing it wouldn't be fun up on the highway.
Yes, I recall you saying that. Weight is partly why the higher tow rating of the Ranger and Gladiator may be appealing. Not, that I'll be towing every second of every day. Might be a case of a truck being bought for 90% Commuting and 10% truck stuff, lol.

Who knows. I may look at the weights and decide to stick to a half ton. Could be looking at 1 / 2 year old F150's and Tundras all over again in a few years.

(Really hoping I can downsize though, lol)

I do see people towing with Tacomas. Maybe just case of 'Just cause you can doesn't mean you should' ...

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I'm thinking something along these lines:

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Clutch

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Yes, I recall you saying that. Weight is partly why the higher tow rating of the Ranger and Gladiator may be appealing. Not, that I'll be towing every second of every day. Might be a case of a truck being bought for 90% Commuting and 10% truck stuff, lol.

Who knows. I may look at the weights and decide to stick to a half ton. Could be looking at 1 / 2 year old F150's and Tundras all over again in a few years.

(Really hoping I can downsize though, lol)
Yeah, I just don't know if there is that big enough difference to make the jump. I kick around the idea of getting small AWD Wagon and a super light aluminum 3 rail trailer for the bikes. It might get 10-12 better mpgs, but daaaaang-it, it won't save me any money! :);)

I do see people towing with Tacomas. Maybe just case of 'Just cause you can doesn't mean you should' ...

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That looks sketchy at best. :D



I'm thinking something along these lines:

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That is the trailer he had, replaced the Taco with a Tundra. On paper it looks like the Taco should do it just fine, but in reality not so sure. Tundra would pull it like it wasn't even back there.
 
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Dalko43

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That is the trailer he had, replaced the Taco with a Tundra. On paper it looks like the Taco should do it just fine, but in reality not so sure. Tundra would pull it like it wasn't even back there.
I think it really depends on the frequency of type of towing. For occasional towing of 5k-6klbs on mostly flat terrain, the Tacoma should be sufficient but certainly not great. That new 3.5l v6 just doesn't have a whole lot of low-end torque. It will definitely pull hard in the upper RPM's, but it's going to be a noisy and somewhat inefficient affair. The advantage with the Tacoma lies with all the times that you won't be towing; it will return far better mpg's than you'll ever see with something like the Tundra.

Tacoma vs Tundra is often discussed on the Toyota forums, and each side of that argument has valid points:
Tacoma is much more capable (in factory form) offroad, more efficient, more nimble and easier to handle for commuting/daily driving duties. Main downsides are lack of payload and subpar low-end grunt.
Tundra has much better low-end grunt, more prepared for bigger tires and heavier loads (gearing + engine grunt), better towing characteristics, and more storage space. Downsides are very low mpg's and its big footprint.

Focus on your goals and be ready to pick your poison.
 
Yeah, I just don't know if there is that big enough difference to make the jump. I kick around the idea of getting small AWD Wagon and a super light aluminum 3 rail trailer for the bikes. It might get 10-12 better mpgs, but daaaaang-it, it won't save me any money! :);)
Not just mileage but, just won't require a truck this big in a few years I think.

That looks sketchy at best. :D
Oh yeah, to me that a 22' trailer is def 1/2 ton territory.

That is the trailer he had, replaced the Taco with a Tundra. On paper it looks like the Taco should do it just fine, but in reality not so sure. Tundra would pull it like it wasn't even back there.
I know. Might end up having to stick with a 1/2 ton. Or even up to a 3/4 gas pot ton depending on the trailer. Gotta decide on a trailer first. Then go from there. No timeline as to when that could happen either. Years I'm thinking. So better start researching every truck that's on the market now! :rolleyes: haha!
 
I think it really depends on the frequency of type of towing. For occasional towing of 5k-6klbs on mostly flat terrain, the Tacoma should be sufficient but certainly not great. That new 3.5l v6 just doesn't have a whole lot of low-end torque. It will definitely pull hard in the upper RPM's, but it's going to be a noisy and somewhat inefficient affair. The advantage with the Tacoma lies with all the times that you won't be towing; it will return far better mpg's than you'll ever see with something like the Tundra.
This is my conundrum. I am the only one in the vehicle on a daily basis during the work week. For 4 months during the warmer months it would tow a (approx 4,500 lbs) trailer what... 6-8 times per year? Tow to a camp site park for a weekend / week etc... Then by downsizing I end up with an easier to park truck that is hopefully more fuel efficient for the rest of the year.
 

Dalko43

Explorer
This is my conundrum. I am the only one in the vehicle on a daily basis during the work week. For 4 months during the warmer months it would tow a (approx 4,500 lbs) trailer what... 6-8 times per year? Tow to a camp site park for a weekend / week etc... Then by downsizing I end up with an easier to park truck that is hopefully more fuel efficient for the rest of the year.
If I were dealing with your driving scenario's, I'd choose the Tacoma over the Tundra. There might be other midsized pickups that you want to consider, but in terms of midsized vs 1/2 ton, I think the former makes a lot more sense from a cost and usage perspective.

FWIW, the 6-speed manual Tacoma, besides allowing you total control over shifting, comes with 4.30 gearing (auto's only get 3.90's) which should somewhat mitigate the Tacoma's mediocre grunt.
 
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