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Ya know, I was thinking about it.. I am more scared to camp where bears are really active than I am walking down the side of the road in Iraq...********
Camping with Firearm-Post Bear Mauling
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Ya know, I was thinking about it.. I am more scared to camp where bears are really active than I am walking down the side of the road in Iraq...********
DrMoab
Explorer
It's always the last option. I just feel more secure knowing its still an option.
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Scenic WonderRunner
Guest
Can't we just camp with Pancakes....and then when the big guy shows up, just chuck a few out the tent!:elkgrin::ylsmoke:
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Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
War Pancakes??? :coffeedrink:
ETAV8R
Founder of D.E.R.P.
We're heading to the Sierras next weekend. Definitely have the bear spray and will keep it close. I do believe at least one firearm will be brought along too. Although a rifle probably isn't the best idea for bears but it isnt the reason it is coming along.
Anyone know a good place to let off a couple rounds up in the Sierra Nevada? Nothing illegal mind you, thats why I'm asking.
Anyone know a good place to let off a couple rounds up in the Sierra Nevada? Nothing illegal mind you, thats why I'm asking.
ETAV8R
Founder of D.E.R.P.
Speaking of tasers, I wonder what that would do to a bear. Probably just piss it off even more.
http://www.itaser.com/
http://www.itaser.com/
Corey
OverCamping Specialist
Probably no worse than a bee sting to them.
Well, I have my trusty new airhorns to try out if a bear comes into my camp this week or I see one while out hiking the trail.
I really need to pick up a handgun later, I can not see lugging my AR15 with me
As powerful and long range as they are, I would hate to use it in close proximity near others.
Now if I was back country camping no big deal, but this week I will be up at a campground withing Mt. Rainier.
Have people meeting me there, and this is the best way to find me.
Come Labor Day weekend though, I will be back country camping where it would make more sense to bring the AR.
Well, I have my trusty new airhorns to try out if a bear comes into my camp this week or I see one while out hiking the trail.
I really need to pick up a handgun later, I can not see lugging my AR15 with me
As powerful and long range as they are, I would hate to use it in close proximity near others.
Now if I was back country camping no big deal, but this week I will be up at a campground withing Mt. Rainier.
Have people meeting me there, and this is the best way to find me.
Come Labor Day weekend though, I will be back country camping where it would make more sense to bring the AR.
GunnIt
Adventurer
Probably no worse than a bee sting to them.
Well, I have my trusty new airhorns to try out if a bear comes into my camp this week or I see one while out hiking the trail.
I really need to pick up a handgun later, I can not see lugging my AR15 with me
As powerful and long range as they are, I would hate to use it in close proximity near others.
Now if I was back country camping no big deal, but this week I will be up at a campground withing Mt. Rainier.
Have people meeting me there, and this is the best way to find me.
Come Labor Day weekend though, I will be back country camping where it would make more sense to bring the AR.
I have been closer to more bears than likely anyone else that you might talk to. See photo proof here:http://www.terrygunn.com/Bears-of-Alaska I own an AR 15 and it is a good defensive weapon, however, an AR 15 is NO defense against any bear. My first summer in Alaska (1985) I carried a 357, traded it in after I encountered my first bear for a 9 shot Mossberg 500 shotgun which I loaded with 3-in magnum slugs and sabots. I have been in remote Alaska every summer in close proximity to bears for 25 years. That said, my primary camp gun is a 40 cal handgun. When in bear country in the lower 48 I still bring the Mossberg...On the streams in AK., I just throw rocks at them when they get too close.
Here are some photos that I took with a 105MM lens, the bear is 15-ft away splashing me with water.
FJ_Viz
Observer
I agree that you as the victim may not have much of a chance to use your gun, spray or (per the video) taser, but what about going to the aid of another under attack. It would feel pretty helpless to watch one of your mates get mauled and not have any means to help.
I MTB in a area where a Mt lion ate one guy and attacked another lady the next day (8-10 years ago). Her friend(another lady) had a tug-a-war with the lion and kept the lion from dragging her friend away, saved the lady's life. I always wondered if I was on scene what could I have done to fight off the lion; wearing lycra and having a 25 lbs bike. Apparent other biker threw rocks.
Point is, if her friend or one of the other bikers had a gun, spray or taser (I like the video), it may have been a different situation.
Calif gun and weapon laws suck. It would be nice to carry in the "woods".
In short, it is probably a good idea to have a means to defend yourself and/or others when in predator county.
PS: do they make bear cage tents, like the shark cages.
PSS: Who would win in a fight: Grizzly bear or shark or Chuck Norris?
PSSS: What about zombie bears? Do you need silver bullets?
I MTB in a area where a Mt lion ate one guy and attacked another lady the next day (8-10 years ago). Her friend(another lady) had a tug-a-war with the lion and kept the lion from dragging her friend away, saved the lady's life. I always wondered if I was on scene what could I have done to fight off the lion; wearing lycra and having a 25 lbs bike. Apparent other biker threw rocks.
Point is, if her friend or one of the other bikers had a gun, spray or taser (I like the video), it may have been a different situation.
Calif gun and weapon laws suck. It would be nice to carry in the "woods".
In short, it is probably a good idea to have a means to defend yourself and/or others when in predator county.
PS: do they make bear cage tents, like the shark cages.
PSS: Who would win in a fight: Grizzly bear or shark or Chuck Norris?
PSSS: What about zombie bears? Do you need silver bullets?
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
Carry on...
Traveling smart in bear country makes the most sense. My wife & I have been from Montana to Maine camping and hiking in grizzly and black bear territory. I always have had a hand gun (.44) & or rifle (7mm) on me or in the truck (@ home I use them for woodchucks, deer & coyotes) and when we travel I still keep @ least one with us, not for the four legged animals but for the two legged kind that might wonder around looking for trouble.
We have had several black bears over the years cause issues but never a major life or death threat. And while fly fishing the Lamar Valley in Yellowstone I have never given it a thought to carry a gun. (though the day after we saw a huge grizzly about 50 yards from where I was fishing)
I guess right now I'd be more worried about the two convicted murders that are on the loose in Yellowstone than any 4 legged beast.
We have had several black bears over the years cause issues but never a major life or death threat. And while fly fishing the Lamar Valley in Yellowstone I have never given it a thought to carry a gun. (though the day after we saw a huge grizzly about 50 yards from where I was fishing)
I guess right now I'd be more worried about the two convicted murders that are on the loose in Yellowstone than any 4 legged beast.
Mike S
Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
A bear attack is not always about food. Some certainly are, but there are apparently other triggers. With grizzlies, it seems that it's often a hair trigger.
My cousin is a geologist and wilderness backpacker. When he left to work on the North Slope of Alaska, he asked my advice on armament for traveling in bear country. He left with a unplugged Remington 870 riot gun, double-aught buckshot, and a box of slugs.
My friends that guide on Alaskan rivers know bears well, and have advised me that caution and discretion avoid problems 99% of the time. The other one percent is the problem. Grizzlies will sometimes attack without apparent provocation, and it is much better to be well-armed and prepared to defend yourself. I do not like the idea of standing in front of 1000 pounds of charging, pissed off grizzly with only a bottle of pepper spray between me and my maker.
My cousin is a geologist and wilderness backpacker. When he left to work on the North Slope of Alaska, he asked my advice on armament for traveling in bear country. He left with a unplugged Remington 870 riot gun, double-aught buckshot, and a box of slugs.
My friends that guide on Alaskan rivers know bears well, and have advised me that caution and discretion avoid problems 99% of the time. The other one percent is the problem. Grizzlies will sometimes attack without apparent provocation, and it is much better to be well-armed and prepared to defend yourself. I do not like the idea of standing in front of 1000 pounds of charging, pissed off grizzly with only a bottle of pepper spray between me and my maker.