Aluminum Flat-bed-canopy Colorado Diesel Build

[Thinkofsomethingkwik]

This is an ontario specific rule, where the OP and I live.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

How does insurance work on this rig? I was under the impression that any flatbed truck had to be registered commercially?

Yeah, the law is simply insane. Apparently really only a problem if the GVW is over 4500kg. So if towing a trailer. But a camper is not a trailer.

But then if you are doing some home improvements, and you rent something like a floor sander, cement mixer, etc. then you are a commercial vehicle again.

One of the reasons I stuck with mid-size trucks instead of full-size, is my registered GVWR is 3000kg.

To be clear: It's not only a flatbed that creates this mess. Any pickup with a registered GVWR over 4500kg (so a full size) needs a CVOR. There is a personal use exemption, if you have the standard box, but only if you are NOT hauling any "commercial tools". So only buy cheap hammers, no high-end hammers...

Another law that was created by citiots.

 

[emulous74]

Man, I am mighty impressed of what can come out of "I want to keep 4 mountain bikes clean and secure". But in all honesty I am jealous of your skills and ingenuity and very proud you did this to a diesel ZR2. Keep up the awesome work.

 

[Thinkofsomethingkwik]

Yeah, the law is simply insane. Apparently really only a problem if the GVW is over 4500kg. So if towing a trailer. But a camper is not a trailer.

But then if you are doing some home improvements, and you rent something like a floor sander, cement mixer, etc. then you are a commercial vehicle again.

One of the reasons I stuck with mid-size trucks instead of full-size, is my registered GVWR is 3000kg.

To be clear: It's not only a flatbed that creates this mess. Any pickup with a registered GVWR over 4500kg (so a full size) needs a CVOR. There is a personal use exemption, if you have the standard box, but only if you are NOT hauling any "commercial tools". So only buy cheap hammers, no high-end hammers...

Another law that was created by citiots.

Isn't our province bizzare? I really respect the work you put into your build

So you're saying I should be hauling Ryobi tools around then? Guess I'm ditching the milwaukee tools

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Isn't our province bizzare? I really respect the work you put into your build

So you're saying I should be hauling Ryobi tools around then? Guess I'm ditching the milwaukee tools

Yeah, and you ever see those generator-trailers, that have no lights or plates? Because apparently a generator-trailer is not a trailer. It's a generator, that you are towing, behind a truck. But it's not a trailer!

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Man, I am mighty impressed of what can come out of "I want to keep 4 mountain bikes clean and secure". But in all honesty I am jealous of your skills and ingenuity and very proud you did this to a diesel ZR2. Keep up the awesome work.

Thanks!

So, to be clear, will have multi-use. I plan to have organizational shelves on the driver's side, and kitchen unit on the other , which will be used when doing other outdoor activities. Some of my inspiration:

 

[Thinkofsomethingkwik]

Yeah, and you ever see those generator-trailers, that have no lights or plates? Because apparently a generator-trailer is not a trailer. It's a generator, that you are towing, behind a truck. But it's not a trailer!

hold on a second, I have! now that I think of it they don't have plates

maybe I need to put a camper ontop of the generator?

 

[Anti-lander]

Very cool, looks austrailian like the collies should. I wish I had the time and patience to flatbed mine.

 

[RoyJ]

To be clear: It's not only a flatbed that creates this mess. Any pickup with a registered GVWR over 4500kg (so a full size) needs a CVOR. There is a personal use exemption, if you have the standard box, but only if you are NOT hauling any "commercial tools". So only buy cheap hammers, no high-end hammers...

Another law that was created by citiots.

Just as bad in BC. Here, any "pickup" body type must be registered as commercial. But, any "commercial" over 5500 kg GVW technically needs to report to scale. I called up Victoria's transport office and asked: what about factory duallies over 5500 kg? Couldn't give me an answer.

Called up 4 different scales, best answer I got was "if you look commercial, we expect you to pull in".

Solution? Convert rear crew backseat to a bed, add fridge, stove, heater, voila, now I'm a "motorhome" with infinite GVW. I can tow a 10 ton dump trailer, as long as it's for personal use, a CVSE cop can't do a thing.

We need to meet dumb laws with dumb solutions...

 

[Beltfed]

Cool build. The Sy-Klone pre-filters work well if you spend a lot of time on gravel roads. If you stick to pavement mostly though, I agree that the snorkel is window dressing.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Just as bad in BC. Here, any "pickup" body type must be registered as commercial. But, any "commercial" over 5500 kg GVW technically needs to report to scale. I called up Victoria's transport office and asked: what about factory duallies over 5500 kg? Couldn't give me an answer.

Called up 4 different scales, best answer I got was "if you look commercial, we expect you to pull in".

Solution? Convert rear crew backseat to a bed, add fridge, stove, heater, voila, now I'm a "motorhome" with infinite GVW. I can tow a 10 ton dump trailer, as long as it's for personal use, a CVSE cop can't do a thing.

We need to meet dumb laws with dumb solutions...

Yeah, I'm thinking about "converting" it to an RV registration. AFAIK, we don't even need a bed in Ontario.

The only thing stopping me is questions about insurance. Obviously my car insurance wouldn't work anymore. I'd have to get RV insurance, and I'm not sure how hard that would be to get the to accept my build. I mean, anybody with a brain who looks at it, realizes that it's better built than any RV. But that doesn't mean an insurance company will insure it.