2023 New OEV High Country Hard Wall Camper Flatbed and Fixed

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
I agree with you guys. I cannot keep the constantly-evolving model names straight, the changes and conflicting information and all, it's exhausting. All of these different cabins they're offerings are awesome, but they need a clear and definitive naming system IMHO, beyond SW(SoftWall) or HW(HardWall), and R(Removable) or F(Fixed).
Earthroamer had it for a bit; XV-LT, XV-LTS(Stretch). XV-LTSS (SuperStretch).

I've run this feedback up the flag pole.
 

klahanie

daydream believer
So I see on OEV's home page Hybrid is gone and they now have:
Fixed
Flat-bed
Slide-in

Who says they don't listen 😃. Actually, I think they do, and have, --> to everyone's benefit.

And they have a teaser E-Series 4x4 camper project. Yay, I do like what this co. is doing.

Built a better pop up, trays for integration, keeping their units narrow, NA sourced where possible, fixed mount (we need more of these), and now E-Series.

Dynamite !
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
So I see on OEV's home page Hybrid is gone and they now have:
Fixed
Flat-bed
Slide-in

Who says they don't listen 😃. Actually, I think they do, and have, --> to everyone's benefit.

And they have a teaser E-Series 4x4 camper project. Yay, I do like what this co. is doing.

Built a better pop up, trays for integration, keeping their units narrow, NA sourced where possible, fixed mount (we need more of these), and now E-Series.

Dynamite !

They now have dropdowns for HardWall, Removable, and Fixed. That really should instead say Removable-HW, Removable-SW, and Fixed...because the 3 Fixed cabins are all HW as well so HardWall is misleading/confusing.

E-Series cutaway will be interesting. All of their campers have pretty industry-standard 60"L cabovers, whereas the cab for an E-Series is super short compared to a CrewCab truck, so how will this work? Cabover can't hang over the hood of the E, and it'd look silly to have a really long aft-of-cab cab extension.

Fixed mount; why do we need more? They're over double the price of a removable camper (ie BC-SW at $160k, when an 8' HB-SW is $68k). I think the BC is great, but I do not see/understand the value in the $92k delta over a standard SW camper, do you?
A fully custom flatbed/headache cross frame tunnel box(allowing more storage than BC-HW setup offers, at less weight), 4 custom under-bed boxes is ~$30k installed. That still leaves $62k. Subtract ~$10k for power roof = $52k remaining. So a horseshoe dinette, shower pan in the entry floor, no propane, Hydronic, extra solar panel, Molle on the back, some higher end Victron and a 2000W inverter...is worth $52,000? Not trying to come across critical, I'm trying to wrap my brain around the math.

HC-R, under Download specs, still says diesel or petrol heater, OEV hydronic. That'll be cool.
 
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chadx

♫ Off the road again. Just can't wait to get...
HC-R, under Download specs, still says diesel or petrol heater, OEV hydronic. That'll be cool.

Welllllll, that just means the download spec is still wrong. ;) That is the spec for the HC-F; not HC-R. Click on the Plumbing/Heating/Cooling tab to see the real specs (screen shot pasted below).

Diesel/gas heat source are plumbed it directly into the pickups fuel tank. Yes, they likely could rig a removable camper to have the same gas/diesel source by placing an onboard fuel tank for the gas/diesel, but I find that unlikely, especially because the images of the HC-R already show a propane compartment. That also aligns with OEV's history of only putting gas/diesel on fixed campers while all removable campers use propane.

Paste of HC-removable specs noting propane:
HC-R specs.JPG




Paste of HC-Fixed specs noting gas/diesel:
HC-F specs.JPG
 

chadx

♫ Off the road again. Just can't wait to get...
And pics confirm HC-R will have propane heat and single propane/single induction burners rather than gas/diesel heat and full induction burners.
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
And pics confirm HC-R will have propane heat and single propane/single induction burners rather than gas/diesel heat and full induction burners.

You are correct sir. Hopefully OEV hires a proofreader/editor soon.
 

chadx

♫ Off the road again. Just can't wait to get...
Best I can offer is...It's half the price of a Summit. Ha. (Summit starts at $263,285 USD). Goes back to my post in another thread that each camper model doubles in price but asked if it doubles in value? Even the jump from the Camp-X/Backcountry to the Hudson Bay+Tray is about twice the price.

Value can only be answered by each potential buyer. Obviously the cost of materials and labor don't double with each model up offered. So it's up to the buyer to decide if the value is there.

The potential buyer pool decreases greatly for each model up at double the price per step, but some are willing to pay for exclusivity or are simply in an income bracket that these prices give no pause. This plays out in automobiles, fishing boats, houses, etc. every day (paying twice the price but not getting twice the value). Base model pickup vs highest trim at well over twice the price, but they have the same body, frame, engine, transmission, axles etc. and only different features.
 
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Ninelitetrip

Active member
Do the High Country Fixed Removable and Fixed models work with a standard pickup truck or do you need a 60-inch commercial cab and chassis?

Arnold: Initially we designed the High Country to work with a 60-inch commercial cab and chassis, but we have since decided that we could adapt the design to a standard one-ton truck. If that’s what customers want, we will work with them.



We build 100 units a year and we’re happy





Interesting that they would be looking to put this on a pickup. Weighs 3000 lbs, payload on a #11300 F350 runs around 4300 lbs with a gasser.


Small batch production with the LITE Industries heritage. Money.
 

CuStOm

Adventurer
Overlanding is starting to feel like when 4x4 Sprinters first came out. If it's "vanlife" then it's twice the price. They see Mr. Instagram coming! ;) Back to the topic at hand...
 

chadx

♫ Off the road again. Just can't wait to get...
Same thing happened to dual sport motorcycles, and all related kit, about 10+ years ago.

The labels on the below meme could just as well be "Regular Screwdriver" and "Overlanding Screwdriver" (though, both need to be multiplied by 10 to adjust for inflation since this meme was made). I've seen the same meme as it relates to "regular" vs "boating" screwdrivers. The truth in this is funny, though hurts a little bit at the same time. Ha.

screwdrivers.jpg
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Do the High Country Fixed Removable and Fixed models work with a standard pickup truck or do you need a 60-inch commercial cab and chassis?

Arnold: Initially we designed the High Country to work with a 60-inch commercial cab and chassis, but we have since decided that we could adapt the design to a standard one-ton truck. If that’s what customers want, we will work with them.

Interesting that they would be looking to put this on a pickup. Weighs 3000 lbs, payload on a #11300 F350 runs around 4300 lbs with a gasser.

Could work so long as you go with aluminum flatbed, maybe 2(maybe not 4) underbed boxes, light amount of gear/tools, stock bumper/no winch/no lights, stock wheels/tires, stock fuel tank, etc etc. Ask me how I know... ;)
 

Ninelitetrip

Active member
Here’s the thing, though. They make two different flatbeds a light duty has a max weight of 3000 pounds and comes in a max length of 8 feet, which they will only put on a long bed frame and they have a heavy duty flatbed which has a payload of 5000 pounds for the cab chassis. The High Country is 9.5 feet. How does that fit on an 8 foot flatbed with a max payload of 3000 pounds?
 

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