Yep! Especially with RV's. Man, they are pounding those things back big time. You cannot increase production of something 30 or 40% and not have issues. My cousin works at an RV dealership and he says he has never seen anything close to how bad some of them have come in. He told me the manufactuers are KNOWINGLY shipping rv's deficient because they know that RV dealers won't return them because inventory is so short. So dealers often end up trying to fix the stuff themselves because their profit margins are so huge due to covid. He told me that before covid, he was selling RV's usually for 35% off MSRP on a $300,000 RV. Now he tells me they will sell those easily for 20% off MSRP. That means the dealer makes an extra $45,000 per RV on a 300k rv! He said they even got a few people to pay full MSRP who didn't know any better. Yeah not the most ethical dealer...
2021 F150 vs F250
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Yep! Especially with RV's. Man, they are pounding those things back big time. You cannot increase production of something 30 or 40% and not have issues. My cousin works at an RV dealership and he says he has never seen anything close to how bad some of them have come in. He told me the manufactuers are KNOWINGLY shipping rv's deficient because they know that RV dealers won't return them because inventory is so short. So dealers often end up trying to fix the stuff themselves because their profit margins are so huge due to covid. He told me that before covid, he was selling RV's usually for 35% off MSRP on a $300,000 RV. Now he tells me they will sell those easily for 20% off MSRP. That means the dealer makes an extra $45,000 per RV on a 300k rv! He said they even got a few people to pay full MSRP who didn't know any better. Yeah not the most ethical dealer...
Ninelitetrip
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The 7.3 is offered all the way up to the F 750 including a CNG/Propane option. Is now offered on RV chassis and in school bus chassis. It will do fine. Can always go with the 6.2 BOSS. There is a million of them and if they stop making it today you will have parts for 20 years.
jadmt
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it is somewhere between the factory and Billings. He parked his 2009 Ram 1500 on the street with a for sale sign and first person that looked at it bought it for almost $20,000. The dealership said they would buy it outright for 14000. He never even inquired about selling it to the dealer until after he found out his truck was shipped and he thought he would ask. Good time to sell used too.
I like that last. But need to pull a 38' 15K lbs boat trailer, sometimes over the Rockies.
Shorter the better, no RV/camper involved.
Do not want diesel. Kinda like the idea of Propane.
What do y'all recommend?
billiebob
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yep, the F150 maxxed out is an impressive truck but it is still a light duty pickup and maxxed out it is maxxed out. It will do fine maxxed out on the freeway, it'll do fine if you are careful off the pavement but everything about the F150 is lighter duty than the F250. Maxxed out an F250 will handle rough terrain with better reliability. Everything is tougher and heavier on the F250.
Interesting you include the W2500 Ram...... Ram 2500 is comparable to the F250 where the Ram 2500 based Powerwagon is more comparable to an F150 payload capacity.... but built with W2500 components. Payload and GVWR are only a tiny part of the story.
Interesting you include the W2500 Ram...... Ram 2500 is comparable to the F250 where the Ram 2500 based Powerwagon is more comparable to an F150 payload capacity.... but built with W2500 components. Payload and GVWR are only a tiny part of the story.
Ninelitetrip
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Here is TFL Truck doing their Ike gauntlet with an F250 7.3 Godzilla towing a 16,000 lb. horse trailer.
eyemgh
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I skimmed the whole thread and didn’t see the link I’ll post below. If it has been, my apologies.
BTW, having run out of capacity on a light duty with just a FWC shell, I opted for a F350 7.3/4.30 Super Cab.
BTW, having run out of capacity on a light duty with just a FWC shell, I opted for a F350 7.3/4.30 Super Cab.
What is a card lock?
Porkchopexpress
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I have the 7.3 with 3.73 gears and I’m hauling a 3K slide in camper and getting 12 mpg mixed city and mountain highways so I’m happy with the set up. I can feel the weight going up steep grades. I would definitely opt for the 4.30 rear diff for a 15k trailer over the Rockies, (which is where I am now coincidentally).
jadmt
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commercial or business fleet fueling sites. They are unmanned stations and you have to belong to whatever group CFN is one that I am familiar with. I have not seen them sell propane before but some may.
Ninelitetrip
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Was the 6.2 a consideration or did you really want the Godzilla?
eyemgh
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I didn’t consider the smaller motor. It’ll hold a flatbed and Hallmark K2 full time. I figured the mileage would be similar, and opted for more power.
Ninelitetrip
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The new 10 speed certainly is a nice add-on.
Todd n Natalie
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I had a propane powered Grand Marquis about 25 years ago. Back then it was cheap enough to deal with the pain of finding a filling station.
Now, I don't think there is that much savings. Not here anyway. I would personally not want to use propane on a vehicle I am intending on travelling with.
Odds of finding a filling station are greatly reduced compared to gas / diesel.