2020 Defender Spy Shots....

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naks

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And that's not a bad thing.... Whoever came up with that drawing deserves a cookie - its pretty nice.
Yeah, it's just the right blend of new and old such that one instantly recognises that it's a Defender, but the new one.

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Argh and LOL

"...............Big chunky motor, that....hopefully if we can build them right ................"

Which begs the question, you didn't before and JLR is seeing high warrant claim / failure rates?
I wonder what the claims were for? I've had my new JLUR in for ESS and so have others. The 3.6's motors have an amazing record as does the new 8 speed auto, so I'm thinking it's more of the peripheral annoying stuff. All I know is I love this latest version of jeep but I have no brand loyalty and I'd jump ship for what I thought was better.

I pretty much think all manufacturers have issues, some more than others but LR really has a bad reputation, real or imagined. IF they can change that people will come if the price point is right, coupled with off road capability.
 

michaels

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I like this front end!

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Man wouldn’t that be nice! I doubt it will look that good though


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catmann

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Wow that "RRC" rendering really is the ideal evolution of the Defender where the Defender we are seeing is more of the evolution of the Discovery. Oh well, I like the Discoverys and so if the Defender is a better Discovery with a different name, I can live with that.
 

DieselRanger

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Argh and LOL

"...............Big chunky motor, that....hopefully if we can build them right ................"

Which begs the question, you didn't before and JLR is seeing high warrant claim / failure rates?
They've been sourced from Ford for the last decade or so and they've been doing alright except for the Ecoboost 4 in the Evoque and similar models.
 

danof76

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I wonder what the claims were for? I've had my new JLUR in for ESS and so have others. The 3.6's motors have an amazing record as does the new 8 speed auto, so I'm thinking it's more of the peripheral annoying stuff. All I know is I love this latest version of jeep but I have no brand loyalty and I'd jump ship for what I thought was better.

I pretty much think all manufacturers have issues, some more than others but LR really has a bad reputation, real or imagined. IF they can change that people will come if the price point is right, coupled with off road capability.

JLR = Jaguar Land Rover not JL Rubicon...
 
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