I really like the platform. R2.8 at 160hp, 310 lb/ft 503lbs. The crate engine comes with PS, alt, etc. Adaptors for GM, Dodge, and Toyota trans and they can turn 30+ mpg in a lifted jeep on 38's. Whats not to like. The 9k price tag is high but not that bad, sure would be cool in a monty.