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    This truck is unbelievable good

    I kinda hear what he's saying, at least in terms of how options are all "bundled" nowadays into different "trim" levels and it is pretty hard to pick and choose only what you want your vehicle to have . . . instead, if you want one thing (like a locking diff), you often have to pay for a bunch...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    In the US the car in the video was called the Jeep Liberty (the Commander was a bigger, failed attempt at creating a 3 row SUV). It was intended to be the replacement for the Cherokee, and the Dodge Nitro was a rebranded version. Were not very good cars.
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    And the irony, DieselRanger, of posting a coil sprung, solid axle D110 167 pages into this debate! :) Jeep "almost" made something like that, but they never brought their Jeep Afrika concept to market . . . and at the risk of adding another 20 pages to this beating a dead horse thread, one...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    You can disagree and I'm absolutely fine with that. My take is that, all things considered, the 90 and the Wrangler were not terribly that different, price tag, upper crusty marketing, and old Rover V8 notwithstanding (obviously there was no competitor for the 110, but then again LR only...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Whoa, that’s not good! Thx for sharing!
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Yeah, what a fallacy. Two coil-sprung, solid axle, soft top vehicles with nearly the same dimensions and capabilities were never competitors. Gotcha. I'll concede that Land Rover (and in particular LRNA) doesn't want to compete with Jeep and never has (the unwashed, huddled masses! the...
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    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I hear ya that the old one wasn’t profitable for LR to build by hand on the ancient assembly line, and that sales were nonexistent in the final few years, but I’d question the statement that the Defender was only and would only be a niche vehicle. Jeep sold over 200 thousand Wranglers (the...
  8. M

    New Defender News

    So where the heck did Blackangie go?
  9. M

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Throwing this raw meat into the cage (saw it on FB today) so you animals can get to 100 pages! Fire away! :) https://ineosgrenadier.com/reveal/suspension
  10. M

    New Defender News

    That is some good Rover porn indeed. Good cause, good stuff! (I think we can all agree on that)
  11. M

    New Defender News

    Bruh, did you mean to post this in the TOYOTA forum? 🤔 😁
  12. M

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Metallurgy. Intellectual dishonesty. Arbiter. Big fancy words. I like shorter words. Like “troll”. See ya, keyboard warrior.
  13. M

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Oh FFS, just stop already. Stop trying to turn this place into DiscoWeb.
  14. M

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Glad that you are going to give it a rest, because your responses are equally ridiculous. Why do you give two shits what RedRover thinks? Why do you keep twisting his words, and pointing out things like (oh dear god!) spelling mistakes? C'mon, dude . . . the two of you have completely...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Indeed. :)
  16. M

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Well, more like the romantic notion of motoring in the late 1970s than in the 1940s . . . just sayin’. And I didn’t say that I didn’t think it wasn’t off road capable - I said none of you have even driven it yet, but evraone is still arguing like crazy. If you love it, that’s cool. I’m clearly...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    For me, low tech is the best tech. If that's rose tinted lenses, then I'm fine with it. This just isn't my cup of tea . . . and I AM bummed that there's not a soft top (open air driving is a great experience and the folding "LeCar" style fabric top LR has shown us isn't even close). I'd...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Good lord this thread has gone down the toilet. I don't understand why some folks can't say they're not thrilled with the new Defender without having a pitchfork and torch wielding mob come running out of the shadows. The look is polarizing at best, and I can completely understand why folks...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Ar Are you claiming that airplanes never need to have thee electronics repaired or replaced? Because that would be quite hard to believe.
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