Add one more Cherokee...

[Purple People Eater]

I drove out to Redlands California on Tuesday to pick up this 2001 Jeep Cherokee Classic.

70K miles, 4wd, Chrysler 8.25" rear axle, 16" wheels, skid plates, NP242 "Selec-Trac", full-time/part-time, 2.72:1 ratio with low range.

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There will probably be a build thread started somewhat soon. Any questions?

[Fergie]

Nice find. I like the color, wheels, t-case and axle...29 spliner!

Have you checked the head casting number yet?

[ExpoMike]

Nice!!! Those are the same wheels I have and I love them. Had a buddy try to talk me into switching to 15" wheels and I was like, No way! Some of the few factory wheels I really like.

Good score. About the only "down side" is the 242 transfer case. SYE's are few and expensive. Enjoy and watch those stop lights. :peepwall:

[BC Explorer]

Nice and clean,
Wait till it turns out like this....

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l171/yuchym/DSCF2516.jpg

[Exrunner]

Have you checked the head casting number yet?


Just curious...what happens with the casting number? I have the same rear axle.

Also, nice jeep...just picked mine up as well. You know what...we need to start some kind of club for Cherokees...maybe a North American one since they have them all over the world. And just for XJs. That would be really cool:xxrotflma

[articulate]

Any questions?
Can you say, "Night run?"

Let's go.

[Purple People Eater]

Have you checked the head casting number yet?

Umm... no. Educate me on why this matters?



Nice!!! Those are the same wheels I have and I love them. Had a buddy try to talk me into switching to 15" wheels and I was like, No way! Some of the few factory wheels I really like.

Good score. About the only "down side" is the 242 transfer case. SYE's are few and expensive. Enjoy and watch those stop lights. :peepwall:

Thanks, I really like the wheels as well. These ones are a lot more attractive than my old 15", in my opinion.

And Yeah, I'm looking at upwards of $800 for the Slip Yoke Eliminator for this transfer case, but I aware of this before the purchase, so it's not too big of a bummer. I just gotta pony up and do it. I have a lot on my plate, and I'm going to start with the small stuff first.

[Purple People Eater]

Can you say, "Night run?"

Let's go.

Let's do it.

[Fergie]

Just curious...what happens with the casting number? I have the same rear axle.

Also, nice jeep...just picked mine up as well. You know what...we need to start some kind of club for Cherokees...maybe a North American one since they have them all over the world. And just for XJs. That would be really cool:xxrotflma

Tongue in cheek comment really...

There are a disproportionately high number of 2001 heads that tend to crack on the XJs, compared to other years. Batch # is 0331.

When you look at the total number of XJs produced that year, the number of heads from that casting lot is not a very high ratio.

The head cracking issue seems to be the result of several bad castings and I can only speculate that the cast iron used in one large batch made around the year 2000 must have been of poor quality.
The area between the no.3 and 4 exhaust ports is the hottest part of the head and is subjected to the largest temperature fluctuations, making that the area most prone to crack.
The first sign of a problem is unexplained loss of coolant. If there are no external coolant leaks, remove the oil filler cap and look between the valve springs of the no.3 and 4 cylinders. A crack is usually too small to be seen with the naked eye but you WILL see crusts of coolant in that area and that's a telltale sign.
If the crack is between an intake port and the water jacket (or between the combustion chamber and water jacket), the engine might run like it's on 5 cylinders. Check the plugs and if one of them has less carbon than the others with traces of coolant, you'll know which cylinder is affected.
If it's between an exhaust port and the water jacket, you'll have steam coming from the exhaust but the engine will run fine.
If the crack is only between the water jacket and the crankcase, you'll only have the mystery loss of coolant with the engine otherwise running well.
Left neglected, enough coolant can accumulate in the crankcase to contaminate the oil and result in accelerated main/rod/cam bearing wear, manifesting as low oil pressure.


Sadly, I just checked my WJ, and it looks as though I may have anew head in my future...bummer.

[goodtimes]

Can you say, "Night run?"

Let's go.

http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17309

:snorkel:

[Purple People Eater]

There is a small list of modifications I would like to do. It includes, but is not limited to:

Immediate/Near future:

-K&N air filter
-Replace those dim headlights with Delta H4 halogen headlights. (http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm)
-CB radio with 3' Firestik (http://firestik.com/CatalogFrame.htm) antenna.
-JKS Sliders (http://dpgoffroad.com/jks_supernerfs.htm)

=$650

Not too distant future:

-Old Man Emu 3" suspension system
-245/75R16 BF Goodrich All-Terrains (or 265/70R16, more research needed.)
-JKS "Quicker" sway bar disconnects
-Slip Yoke Eliminator
-Nate's 4x4 Slimline recessed winch bumper (http://www.nates4x4.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=77) with 8000# winch of eventual decision. (Smittybilt is lookin' good, though.)
-Garvin Wilderness rear bumper (http://www.quadratec.com/products/72203_800.htm)

=$5,200

Eventually:

-ARB rooftop tent (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=453)
-Engel MR040 Fridge (http://www.sierraexpeditions.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=508)
-4.1 gearing
-Snorkel (Why? Because it looks sweet, that's why.)
-HAM
=+/-$4,000

[weezerbot]

Looks great man I love the color!!! Don't forget to add HAM radio to that list! :jump:

[Purple People Eater]

Don't forget to add HAM radio to that list! :jump:


Psh... You're not the boss of me!

*list updated

[weezerbot]

:peepwall:

[ExpoMike]

Might I highly recommmend these headlights!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ33710QQihZ014QQitemZ330262020362QQtcZph oto

$42 shipped to you, made in the same factory as the Hella Euro beam, replacable H4 bulb and look just like Hella's (or any Euro beam light) as far as light output. Myself and my buddy both have them and I do have Hella's in other vehicles, before I found out about these. Don't waste $100 on the Delta's. Also, highly recommend upgrading your headlight wiring harness. There are a few aftermarket ones or build one yourself, as I did. Pulls power directly from the battery and keeps the main amp load out of the headlight switch. Biggest advantage to these is, full voltage to the headlights (you lose some from the headlight switch) and your headlight switch will last forever since only a few milliamps are going through it.

http://gallery.lisaandmike.org/albums/carstuff/PICT3675.jpg
http://gallery.lisaandmike.org/albums/carstuff/PICT3674.jpg

[XJxplorer]

Have you looked at AJ's rails versus the JKS rails?? They are considerably less in price but the same(if not better) quality..

[Purple People Eater]

Might I highly recommmend these headlights!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ33710QQihZ014QQitemZ330262020362QQtcZph oto

$42 shipped to you, made in the same factory as the Hella Euro beam, replacable H4 bulb and look just like Hella's (or any Euro beam light) as far as light output. Myself and my buddy both have them and I do have Hella's in other vehicles, before I found out about these. Don't waste $100 on the Delta's. Also, highly recommend upgrading your headlight wiring harness. There are a few aftermarket ones or build one yourself, as I did. Pulls power directly from the battery and keeps the main amp load out of the headlight switch. Biggest advantage to these is, full voltage to the headlights (you lose some from the headlight switch) and your headlight switch will last forever since only a few milliamps are going through it.



Hmm... interesting. I'll have to keep those in mind. As far as the wiring goes, it looks like a pretty nice setup, but I think I want to keep as much wiring as possible OEM and stock. Just to keep it simple and reliable.


Have you looked at AJ's rails versus the JKS rails?? They are considerably less in price but the same(if not better) quality..

I did look at AJ's, but I couldn't find on the site whether they came powder coated or not. And the few products I have previously ordered from JKS have been stout pieces of equipment. JKS has really won me over as far as quality goes.

[97 zj steve]

very clean...looks good :smiley_drive:

[ExpoMike]

Hmm... interesting. I'll have to keep those in mind. As far as the wiring goes, it looks like a pretty nice setup, but I think I want to keep as much wiring as possible OEM and stock. Just to keep it simple and reliable.

That's the cool thing about the upgraded wiring harnesses, they plug into the stock headlight plug (the one that you plug into the back of a stock headlight). You then run the new power wire to the battery and two new plug for the headlights. If you ever want to go back to stock, you just remove this new harness and plug the factory plugs into the headlights. Cake. The improvement even with stock lights but with an upgraded harness is amazing. Take a digital volt meter and check the voltage at the headlights. Then check the voltage at the battery. Typically you will see a 1-2 volt difference, which doesn't seem like much but when you are dealing with the 12 volt world, it's a big amount.

Good luck with yours but seriously recommend the AutoPal lights. Cool thing about E code lights, they ALL must meet the Euro standards and they are very strict (unlike the US). Beam pattern, brightness, cutoff, material are almost 100% identical on all E code lights. Why pay more for the exact same thing? No affiliation to the seller, just hate seeing people spend unneeded money for an identical item. :beer:

[Maximus Ram]

Nice score.....

Why only a 3" lift.....why not 4.5" ?
I was going to go with a 3 on mine, but learned from going with a 3 on my Dodge that for the $, I should have went for 5 ...thus getting 4.5 for the XJ.
I think one generally always wishes for a bit more after installing them.

[Fergie]

If I may, for your suspension, I suggest the following:

Front:
OME Heavy, with 1.75" spacer
JKS discos
Adj LCAs, RE preferred, trim lower shock mount for more articulation
JKS BPEs
YJ brakelines
Kevins Offroad Trackbar conversion
OME shocks(no need for the "L" version if you go for BPEs)
ZJ V8 Tierod(inexpensive HD upgrade for the stock XJ version)
JKS weld on LCA skids

Rear:
RE extended shackle
OME HD spring packs with JCXL AAL(specifically designed for XJ, creates a 30% stiffer pack for better towing a gear hauling without compromising ride)
YJ brake lines, including e-brake cable
*might need 2 or 3 degree shims if you are waiting on the SYE. Your year XJs have a longer slip yoke on the 231 version, but I don't know on the 242 version.
OME shocks(regular version)
JKS BPES
Relocate lower shock mounts to sit flush with axle tube(no boat anchors)

Again, not sure for the 242 so check you lengths, but with the AW-4, you might be able to use a front driveshaft for you rear CV shaft once you get the SYE.

For the sliders, I ran AJs on mine, and would do so in a heart beat again. Send him and email to see if he can do powder coating, he is worth it.

For your front skid, you can make spacers to drop it down and still have it cover your steering.

[jh504]

Nice score.....

Why only a 3" lift.....why not 4.5" ?
I was going to go with a 3 on mine, but learned from going with a 3 on my Dodge that for the $, I should have went for 5 ...thus getting 4.5 for the XJ.
I think one generally always wishes for a bit more after installing them.

Why stop at a 4.5"? Why not go 6.5" and you will never have height envy?:punk03:
Really though just do what works for you. I have a 6.5" lift on my XJ and I love it. I connect my swaybars and I can cruise at 70 mph comfortably and safely, then pull off, disconnect, and there is nothing that stands in my way. I think a lot of people are scared to go too big on an "expedition rig" but if done right you can really make any setup work for you.
My buddy only has a 3.5" lift and his Jeep does not handle anywhere near as well as mine on the road. Then again, he is also locked all the way around and can outrun me on the trail as long as he doesnt get bottomed out. What ever size you go with, make sure you do it right.

[calamaridog]

Nice. I like that color too.

[Purple People Eater]

Nice score.....

Thanks!


Why only a 3" lift.....why not 4.5" ?
I was going to go with a 3 on mine, but learned from going with a 3 on my Dodge that for the $, I should have went for 5 ...thus getting 4.5 for the XJ.
I think one generally always wishes for a bit more after installing them.

My last Cherokee had a 3" suspension, and it was perfect for what I needed it for. I don't have a desire for rock krawling (even though an XJ with 31" tires and lockers will crawl). I had a budget lift on at first, and it so happened that that was the height I wanted to keep it. I had that budget boost crap on for about 2 years before I went over to Old Man Emu. My last Cherokee's height was exactly right for me, so that's what I'm going to do again.

The accident took away my project, which was getting damn near perfect. But now I've had time to sit back and think about what to do, and doing it right.


Why stop at a 4.5"? Why not go 6.5" and you will never have height envy?:punk03:
Really though just do what works for you. I have a 6.5" lift on my XJ and I love it. I connect my swaybars and I can cruise at 70 mph comfortably and safely, then pull off, disconnect, and there is nothing that stands in my way. I think a lot of people are scared to go too big on an "expedition rig" but if done right you can really make any setup work for you.
My buddy only has a 3.5" lift and his Jeep does not handle anywhere near as well as mine on the road. Then again, he is also locked all the way around and can outrun me on the trail as long as he doesnt get bottomed out. What ever size you go with, make sure you do it right.

Wurd up. But yeah, I'm sticking with 3 inches. It's just my fancy.

And Fergie, thanks for the input. I'll probably take your advice on trimming the lower control arms, relocating the shock mounts, and the shims. Oh, and that's two votes for AJ's sliders... ;)

*edit* Sorry if I seem a little stubborn. I have a vision in my head. Please keep the suggestions flowing, though. :)

[cshontz]

Good for you for stickin' to your guns on lift height. If I may chime in, I recommend the Warn rock sliders for the best-looking rock rails that would surely perform adequately. I like how snug they are to the body.

As a side note, I run the light duty OME leaf springs, and they offer both a generous height increase and ample payload support. I don't subscribe to the need for heavy duty. The front 930 coils are different story, however. I've got 1.75" spacer on top of my 930's, and its still not as tall as my back end on plain light duty OME leaves without a shackle.

You don't have to defend your interest in a snorkel. There is no harm in being prepared for where you might go. ;)

I like your Jeep, and sorry your last one got wtfpwn'd.

[IH8RDS]

Glad to see you have another Cherokee now.

I bought JCR super sliders. The weld qualty is good and have taken allot of abuse. The come bare metal though, but the price is good.

[ExpoMike]

Oh, and that's two votes for AJ's sliders...

Let me add another one. That's what I got as well.

BTW, I agree with your choice of a 3" lift and 31" tires. Unless you want to do more hardcore crawling, this setup has gotten me everywhere I have wanted to go.

[jh504]

Let me add another one. That's what I got as well.

BTW, I agree with your choice of a 3" lift and 31" tires. Unless you want to do more hardcore crawling, this setup has gotten me everywhere I have wanted to go.

Even though I was trying to "pressure":violent-smiley-031: you into a bigger lift. I agree with the fact that an XJ with a 3" lift and 31s will go most anywhere you want to take it. Definitley if you throw in a locker or posi. Just disconnect those swaybars and show those IFS guys whose boss!

[troy]

I like your setup.

Something you might want to consider is the BFG 255/70/16 size. I have the OME lift and was running 245/75/16, but they were load range E. Alsmost all 245/75/16s come in load range E, and it is not necessary for a cherokee.

On my next set of tires I went with 255/70/16, which is load range D and they ride much better. I think the 265/70/16 would require a small spacer to aid in clearance. The 245s rubbed occasionally, the 255s don't rub at all. I'm running these on a Jeep Rubicon Moab wheels.

Hope that helps.

[Purple People Eater]

From BF Goodrich's website:

31X10.50R15/C W=10.5 D=30.7 <-Some rubbing on my last Jeep.

LT265/70R16/D W=10.6 D=30.7

LT245/75R16/E* W=9.8 D=30.5

LT255/70R16/D W=10.2 D=30.2

*=Good call, troy.

[ExpoMike]

The E rating on most 245/75-16's is what steered me to using Bridgestone Dueler REVO's as they have C rated ones. So far I have been VERY happy with the REVO and did a ton of research before I went with them. Almost everyone who has had them, has loved them. A good A/T tire but if your needs are more for a M/T, then these are not the ones to use.

Good luck.

[cshontz]

Good info, Mike. You might've seen my other thread, but in the event that I ever need to get new tires for the Cherokee, I'll keep the REVO's in mind. I hate the E rating.

I don't like how wide the alternative sizes are.

[Purple People Eater]

I don't like how wide the alternative sizes are.

Neither do I. 10.5 was doable, though. I like 245. How bad are the E rated tires on yours, Chris?

*sigh*... tires, tires, tires.

[cshontz]

Neither do I. 10.5 was doable, though. I like 245. How bad are the E rated tires on yours, Chris?

*sigh*... tires, tires, tires.

Tolerable. I don't drive the Cherokee and think, "My god, I wish these tires weren't as hard as bricks", but... I do kinda passively wish they weren't as hard as bricks. I think load range C might be bitchin'.

[ExpoMike]

Good info, Mike. You might've seen my other thread, but in the event that I ever need to get new tires for the Cherokee, I'll keep the REVO's in mind. I hate the E rating.

I don't like how wide the alternative sizes are.

Yep, I have seen the other thread and hope you won't end up selling the XJ but I have also been there, done that. What sucks is you'll end up years from now looking back and thinking, what the heck was I thinking or in my case, building a second (or third) vehicle like the first one. My track record so far is 2 '68 Chevy C10 trucks, 2 '69 Camaro's and 3 Miata's. Should have kept the first one of each of them. Oh well.

So far I love the REVO's. Great ride on the street/highway, quiet, handle well, work great in the dirt, sand and rocks at 18psi. I think mud will be their downfall but being in the far southwest, mud it typically not an issue.

[troy]

The REVOs are a good tire too. When I first put on my OME setup I put a set of REVOs in the 245/70/16 size. I don't remember what the load range was, but they were a great tire until I got to about half tread. Then they became hard and traction dissapeared. Make sure you rotate them regularly too, I've heard they are susceptable to feathering on the edges.

The only reason I swithched is because I traded them for some stock rubicon wheels and tires. When the MTRs wore out I put on tried and true BFG ATs.

[flyingwil]

Crap man, how did I miss this thread? Congrats on the new wheels (bit late though).

[SeaRubi]

get some 16" steelies and shod those suckers with 235/85's (32"). load range E and no whining! :smiley_drive:

they are getting harder to find, but the Geolander A/T II is an excellent tire. These things perform pretty close to an M/T in all but deep mud. Work great in an inch or so of slime.

http://www.thetirerak.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/GeolandarAT2.jpg

[COMP]

i like that wheel

[Purple People Eater]

Okay guys, I need some help. I'm going crazy not being able to listen to the iPod while driving. My last Jeep had an aftermarket stereo deck with an auxiliary port that I could just plug in the iPod and it worked very well. The only thing I didn't like about it was the lights, they were blue and red. It didn't flow well with all the other green lights in the rest of the dash.

Does anyone have any ideas on wiring up something so I can play my tunes via the factory radio? And I don't want to use an FM transmitter, for I don't want to compromise sound quality. Maybe a tape deck thingy? I don't want it to be all... ghettofied.

I'm good at asking. You guys are good at being clever. Whatcha got for me?

[cshontz]

I'm using a wired FM modulator that I described somewhere here. Maybe in my build thread. In any case, it sounds okay. My XJ doesn't have premium sound anyway, but its still pretty satisfying when I crank it. If I did it again, I'd go with an aftermarket head unit - preferably one that isn't flashy.

Seriously, why do they all have to be sooo... non-OE-looking?

[Purple People Eater]

Seriously, why do they all have to be sooo... non-OE-looking?

I don't quite get it either. Unfortunately, the aftermarket stereo system's demographic is overwhelmed by young people. My generation likes flashy things.

This one from Clarion (http://clarion.com/us/en/products/2008/audio/source_units/double_din/DUZ385SAT/us-en-product-pf_1172385079405.html) is somewhat modest. I would have to order online, and install it myself since there are no dealers in AZ. Electronics scare me...

[Purple People Eater]

I am in limbo about my wheel/tire situation. I love the style of the stock 16" wheels I have now, but I don't like my tire options once the 3" suspension is put in place. The 245/75R16 is the right logical size, but load range E is a major turn-off considering the weight of the Cherokee. I know the Bridgestone REVO's are load range C in that size, but I hear mixed reviews about them, and I've had trouble with the brand in the past.

I want BFG All-Terrains, for their trail performance, highway decency, as well as the sex appeal. I have ran 31x10.50R15 in the past, and although they are about 3/4" wider than ideal, they ride nice and are well proportioned for the amount of lift I am applying. Oh, and they're load range C.

To use this tire, of course, I have to downsize my wheel to 15". I don't want to compromise style, and at the same time would like to keep a modest budget. So I'm looking around. If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.

[ExpoMike]

Well, I have to say, having had BFG A/T's before, I love my REVO's. Unlike a lot of the Bridgestone line, these are made in Japan and don't have the issues like the US built tires. Just did another trip from San Diego to Vegas and back. Going over it was pouring down rain. This was really the first major rain I have had them in and they worked great. Never even a moment of concern.

Drove the Bitter Springs Byway and did this in 2WD and full air pressure. Worked great. About the only thing I haven't tested them in is sloppy mud and snow. Should find out about the snow part within the next few months.

A major benefit I have found over A/T of about any brand is they are much more quiet. After 5-6 hours of driving, that makes a world of difference.

The only thing I have gotten stuck in was deep, soft sand dune but both the other XJ's got stuck too. One on 33" BFG M/T's and the other on 31" BFG A/T's.

I would buy the REVO's again in a heartbeat. :luxhello:

[troy]

I've also had the Revo's and BFG AT's. I liked the revo's when new, but the did wear faster than the BFGs. They also were louder after a few thousand miles. Plus I think the BFGs are a better looking tire, the Revo's looked too car like for my taste.

I have the OME lift and debated between BFGs and Revo's, and ended up going with BFG ATs. I went with the 255/70/16. They are load range D. They ride as good if not better than my class C Revo's did.

They are 30.2" diameter, and only 9.8, so they are directly in between the 245/75/16 and 31x10.5x15 sizes.

In the end both tires were excellent all around tires and you really can't go wrong with either. It may come down to what price you can get them for.

[ExpoMike]

I've also had the Revo's and BFG AT's. I liked the revo's when new, but the did wear faster than the BFGs. They also were louder after a few thousand miles. Plus I think the BFGs are a better looking tire, the Revo's looked too car like for my taste.

I have the OME lift and debated between BFGs and Revo's, and ended up going with BFG ATs. I went with the 255/70/16. They are load range D. They ride as good if not better than my class C Revo's did.

They are 30.2" diameter, and only 9.8, so they are directly in between the 245/75/16 and 31x10.5x15 sizes.

In the end both tires were excellent all around tires and you really can't go wrong with either. It may come down to what price you can get them for.

So far I have about 5000 miles on mine and have not noticed any increase in noise. I also run them at 30-32 psi for the street and 18 psi in the dirt.

I will agree that BFG's wear like nails but I feel at the expense of pavement handling. Not that an XJ is a sports car but I feel much more sure footed if I have to brake really hard or make avoidance swerves. In the dirt, there is a slight edge with the A/T's but for me, any offroad trip will include 400-1000 miles worth of street driving and maybe 50-150 offroad, I put a higher weight to street performance then all out dirt.

I have to agree the BFG's look more aggressive but I soon got over that. :p

Also, I tend to put about 3000 miles a year on the XJ. I expect the REVO's to get 25-30,000 miles out of them so I'm looking 5+ years ease out of a set so the trade off of the longer lasting BFG's didn't outweight the load range available in the 245/75-16 size. I may have to look at those 255/70-16 next time around.

[DaJudge]

I had 31/10.5 15 BFGs once. The rims are Discount Tire No-Name Polished Aluminums (4.5" backspace). They were cheap and have held up for four years (they were orginally on my Ranger) with some very rough trails so I can recommend them.

I am sorry the picture is not a good side view but it appears this is best one I have from the 3.5" with 31s phase.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/thebee41/SWCOJuly2006166.jpg

[Purple People Eater]

This morning I put my Garvin Wilderness rear bumper on. Due to the weight of the bumper, I'm leaving the jerry can holder and hi-lift off, to relieve some stress on the stock suspension until I install OME.

Here are some pictures from the install:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0742.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0742.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0748.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0748.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0751.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0751.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0756.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0756.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0757.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0757.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0758.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0758.jpg) http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/th_DSCF0759.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/?action=view&current=DSCF0759.jpg)

[weezerbot]

Very nice!!

[Tanto]

Looks really nice.

[rctr03]

nice mod!!!

jimmy

[jeepmedic46]

looks very nice:)

[Purple People Eater]

It's been a few months since I've done anything, until recently. In my quest to find attractive 15" wheels without breaking the bank, I came across a set of 5 for $100 on Craig's List. They're Jeep OEM, which is a huge bonus in my opinion. They were not, however, in too good of condition. The brake dust was caked, and they had streaks that needed a lot of elbow grease to remove. After a boatload of scrubbing to get them halfway decent, I decided to make them a little... prettier. I want them to be rugged looking, but still keep a classy, modest road appearance.

Here's what I started out with:
Notice the dirt and grime. This crap was on all five.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF1141.jpg

Cleaning involved washing, scrubbing, sweating and cussing.
After I got most of the gunk off, I sanded the top coat off to prep for paint. This was arduous as well, as getting all the nooks and crannies and the outer lip was tough on my girly fingers. The first coat of primer was thin, to get a tack, and the second coat was thicker to make sure I get full coverage.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF1154.jpg

Color choice: GUNMETAL
And I think it was a fantastic choice. Once again, I started with a light coat to get the tack, and added about 3 more coats after. I followed up with a couple layers of clear coat.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF1156.jpg

Black center caps, for tasteful touch of contrast.
When I get these puppies on the Jeep, I'll probably paint the lugnuts black as well. Here's a before and after shot.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF1158.jpg

I'm pleased with how it turned out. Elegant, but ready for the dirt.

[ExpoMike]

Nice! Wheels look great and you picked a good color choice.

Glad to see you got a replacement after what happened to the last XJ.

[weezerbot]

Ohh I was hoping to see gunmetal when I scrolled down! They look great!

[datrupr]

The gun metal looks good. Gives me an idea for my new rig.

[Explorer 1]

Great Job, and now where is your shipping address so I can send you some to do for me???? JK

Thanks,
Fred
Explorer 1

[Explorer 1]

Great Job, and now where is your shipping address so I can send you some to do for me???? JK:)

Thanks,
Fred
Explorer 1

[Explorer 1]

Sorry for the double post, not sure how to withdraw one.

Fred

[motomech]

I'm not a big fan of chrome, but i think chrome lug nuts will look mighty fine on them thar new wheels:26_7_2:

[Purple People Eater]

Thanks for all the kind words everyone. It just felt good to turn another page in the build.


I'm not a big fan of chrome, but i think chrome lug nuts will look mighty fine on them thar new wheels:26_7_2:

Chrome, huh? I was thinking black, to match the center caps, but I guess I'll try it out beforehand. Generally, I too have a distaste for chrome.

[saburai]

I'm not a big fan of chrome, but i think chrome lug nuts will look mighty fine on them thar new wheels:26_7_2:

Me too, and I hate chrome:Wow1:

FWIW- If I never hand refinish another set of wheels it will be way too soon...

[Root Moose]

I say chrome too.

I dig the wheels. Kinda "poor man" (smart man?) AEV wheels.

LOL

[saburai]

I say chrome too.

I dig the wheels. Kinda "poor man" (smart man?) AEV wheels.

LOL

+1
I like them a lot:smiley_drive:

[Purple People Eater]

I say chrome too.

I dig the wheels. Kinda "poor man" (smart man?) AEV wheels.

LOL

The AEV wheels were my inspiration, not gonna lie. But $180/wheel was just completely out of the budget. And they only come in 16". These 15" wheels are kind of my attempt at achieving the same image while spending about $150 for all five wheels...

[John90XJ]

Have you seen the new Goodyear MT/R?

They are quiet on the road, work really well in rock and have been good in the rain.

Sidewalls are arguably stronger than the BFG and I wasn't disappointed crawling through Johnson Valley earlier this month.

FWIW

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/ixnayxj/Goodyear%20Kevlar/027.jpg Photo credit Matt Adair

[Purple People Eater]

Have you seen the new Goodyear MT/R?

They are quiet on the road, work really well in rock and have been good in the rain.

Sidewalls are arguably stronger than the BFG and I wasn't disappointed crawling through Johnson Valley earlier this month.

FWIW

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j160/ixnayxj/Goodyear%20Kevlar/027.jpg Photo credit Matt Adair

Yeah, but I dig symmetry.

[Zeero]

Yeah do not go chrome. We call it "Chromo-sexual" around here.

Black is the way to go, white is kinda cool to.

[Root Moose]

Symmetry is for conformists.

;)

[saburai]

Yeah do not go chrome. We call it "Chromo-sexual" around here.

Black is the way to go, white is kinda cool to.

Come on! It's just a little bit o bling

Not like he's wanting to do 20" spinners :sombrero:

[Purple People Eater]

Symmetry is for conformists.

;)

Ah, but here we have a paradox. A conformist for doing it my way... What would that make me if I did it his way?

[John90XJ]

People will look up to you as an early adopter and seek your sage opinion.

They are also really nice tires.

[FlexdXJ]

Just curious...what happens with the casting number? I have the same rear axle.

Also, nice jeep...just picked mine up as well. You know what...we need to start some kind of club for Cherokees...maybe a North American one since they have them all over the world. And just for XJs. That would be really cool:xxrotflma


some of the heads on 00-01 4.0 XJ were prone to cracking.

[GTABurnout]

Good to see this build moving foward. I finally got your old OME Kit installed.

[Purple People Eater]

Good to see this build moving foward. I finally got your old OME Kit installed.

How does it ride? Let's see a picture!

[GTABurnout]

Working on setting the pinion angle since I didn't have any shims so I will get pics ASAP...

[Purple People Eater]

Uh-oh...

The Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac has a 245/75R16 in load range C. I really like this size, and I really want to keep the 16" wheels. What say ExPo?

[winkosmosis]

Nice score.....

Why only a 3" lift.....why not 4.5" ?
I was going to go with a 3 on mine, but learned from going with a 3 on my Dodge that for the $, I should have went for 5 ...thus getting 4.5 for the XJ.
I think one generally always wishes for a bit more after installing them.

Because the higher you lift, the worse the control arm angle, and the more the tire is pushed FORWARD over bumps, transferring a lot of shock through the arm and into the weak unibody. Also, the taller you go, the more likely that you need a slip yoke eliminator.

That's why I'm at 2" with 31" tires.

[Purple People Eater]

anyway....


uh-oh...

The goodyear wrangler duratrac has a 245/75r16 in load range c. I really like this size, and i really want to keep the 16" wheels. What say expo?

[motomech]

Never had them but they look very aggressive yet still an All Terrain.
Seems to have good lugs on the sidewall for when you air down.

Let us know if ya get them!

[Purple People Eater]

245/75R16 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs- In the garage.
Custom Old Man Emu suspension (the works)- In the mail.

Thought a little update was in order.

.

[GTABurnout]

Quick pic of your old Lift. I like it so far little squeeky but other then that not a bad set up...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/GTABurnout/JEEP/Kansas.jpg

[Stumpalump]

Custom Old Man Emu suspension (the works)- In the mail.



.
let me guess.... a 2.5" rear spring with a full lengh add a leaf instead of the springs with the heavy overide spring in it. Thats a good combo for OME and you can allways throw another full lengh spring in it if you need to.

[Purple People Eater]

Quick pic of your old Lift. I like it so far little squeeky but other then that not a bad set up...


Yeah I came across a few pictures of your Jeep while looking around Craigslist... ;) It looks good, man. Are you still selling it?


let me guess.... a 2.5" rear spring with a full lengh add a leaf instead of the springs with the heavy overide spring in it. Thats a good combo for OME and you can allways throw another full lengh spring in it if you need to.

Yup. Among other things. :sombrero:

[GTABurnout]

Yeah I came across a few pictures of your Jeep while looking around Craigslist... ;) It looks good, man. Are you still selling it?


Its for sale, but its also priced so if it sells I wont be upset. If it dosen't well I will keep it. Trust me If I had to sell it I would demod it and sell you the lift if you still wanted it back.

[NCtrailX]

How about a couple of pics of the 245 duratracs? I'm looking at that size too and want to see em in the flesh - errrr on the screen.

Can't find em local to see 245s.

[Purple People Eater]

How about a couple of pics of the 245 duratracs? I'm looking at that size too and want to see em in the flesh - errrr on the screen.

Can't find em local to see 245s.

I don't have them on the Jeep yet, so I don't have any pictures of the Duratracs... Gimme a week. ;-)

What I can tell you though is that they are mean-looking. Lots of biting edges with generous siping, with varying distances between tread blocks. Held up against the same size BFG Mud Terrain, it looks like it could hold it's own in the gooey stuff. The sidewalls are aggressively knuckled as well. I'm excited to test these out, since I feel kind of like the Guinea pig for them.

[Purple People Eater]

Finally got some work done this weekend.

I took the leaf springs apart to put the overload spring into the pack. I thought this was a good time to make sure they won't squeak. I sprayed a layer of white lithium grease between all the springs.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF1957.jpg

All the stuff together, waiting for installation.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF1959.jpg

Sometimes, it needed some persuasion with a bit of Jig-A-Loo.:sombrero:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF1965.jpg

I enjoy comparing old and new parts. I think it helps appreciate them both.http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF1964.jpg

[Purple People Eater]

I still have to install the adjustable trackbar (panhard), steering stabilizer, and swaybar disconnects. I really like the stance, though.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF2003.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF2005.jpg

[datrupr]

Looking good, Bobby.

[Xjaddiction]

Nice, very nice. I always loved that color on an XJ.

[Purple People Eater]

Thanks guys. It feels good to get back in the swing of things. :)

[weezerbot]

woo hoo! Congrats Bobby looking good! :wings:

[troy]

It's been a while since I've looked at this thread. Jeep looks great!

I was reading through the old posts and it didn't say if you picked up your H4 conversion lights yet.

If you haven't, I'm with XJMike on the Hella E-codes. I bought mine as a kit with bulbs and dust boots. I went with the 60/55W Xneon bulbs. The e-codes are great and the hella housings are very high quality. I have not upgraded the wiriing, but the improvement was significant. Probably the best $100 I've spent on the Jeep. I have 3 vehicles in the garage at the moment that i replaced the sealed beams with these kits.

Here is where I got mine:
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744

[Purple People Eater]

While looking at my pictures, I noticed something is wrong. I haven't looked into it too deeply yet, but if someone knows what's going on here...

It's the driver's side front.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/Prescott%20weekend/DSCF2007.jpg

[troy]

Looks like the breather tube for the front diff. On my '98 it is a black hose with a small platic breather (like in your pic) that is zip tied to the the firewall or something close.

Yours was probably tight after the lift and pulled one of the zip ties loose.

[Purple People Eater]

Looks like the breather tube for the front diff. On my '98 it is a black hose with a small platic breather (like in your pic) that is zip tied to the the firewall or something close.

Yours was probably tight after the lift and pulled one of the zip ties loose.

That was gonna be my first guess, just wanted to be sure. Thanks troy. :victory:

Oh, and I replaced my headlights a couple months ago. I didn't think it was a big enough deal to put it in the thread, tho. I just went with Sylvania SilverStars. $45 for the pair, and it's 100% better. They cast a nice bright white beam, so I'm pretty happy with them. They were what the wallet could afford at the time, since one of them got busted on a tumbleweed the size of a volkswagen.

[ExpoMike]

Yep, front diff vent. Normally zip tied to the upper control arm.

Rig is looking good! Glad you kept the 16" wheels. That's what I have and are by far my favorite OEM Jeep wheels.

[GTABurnout]

Looks good man. I like the 16's as well I bet they ride better then a Steel wheel as well. Good to see you took apart the leaf pack to ensure no squeeking, mine were bad. The jeep also sold to a Vegas guy so he is now enjoying your EX-Lift.

I will continue to follow this build as you want the samething I wanted out of my cherokee...

[Purple People Eater]

Good to see you took apart the leaf pack to ensure no squeeking, mine were bad.

Yeah, I definitely learned my lesson from the other packs. That, and I went with rubber bushings instead of poly this time. (What the Hell was I thinking?!) The difference is astounding.


The jeep also sold to a Vegas guy so he is now enjoying your EX-Lift.

A well-traveled kit. :ylsmoke:

[ExpoMike]

Yeah, I definitely learned my lesson from the other packs. That, and I went with rubber bushings instead of poly this time. (What the Hell was I thinking?!) The difference is astounding.


Yep, dumping the poly bushings most likely made 95% of the difference. I never run poly in joints that have any twisting motion. Too much binding.

[Rexsname]

So.....no pizza in exchange for help installing the lift?





REX

[DBH]

Very nice. I like the work in progress pics as well!

[Purple People Eater]

I have a (maybe more than) slight vibration at the gas pedal. Now, before I get the whole "SYE" spiel, don't worry, I'm on it. I just have to wait until I can spend the dough. For now, I have a transfer case spacer and 2* caster wedges installed so the vibes aren't so harsh. At first, it was smooth as butter. Lately, as I've been accelerating from a stand-still, the gas pedal vibrates a bit until I hit 15mph or so. Once I get going, the vibes stop. Unless I go over a dip, and when rear axle gets closer to the body, I get a short burst of vibration. You can't hear anything, just feel it. I wonder if my U-joints are starting to ache due to the lackluster attention to the driveline angles. If someone has had this problem before, and it isn't the U-joints, humor me?

NP242 TC, 245/75R16, 8.25

[ExpoMike]

Yep, U-joints going would be the first thing I would say based on your description. It doesn't take a long time to kill joints when not setup correctly. Since you need to do a SYE and will need a different driveshaft, not a whole lot of sense changing U-joints unless your SYE is WAY down the road.

[Purple People Eater]

Yep, U-joints going would be the first thing I would say based on your description. It doesn't take a long time to kill joints when not setup correctly. Since you need to do a SYE and will need a different driveshaft, not a whole lot of sense changing U-joints unless your SYE is WAY down the road.

I hear ya. Unfortunately it's going to be a few more months until I can squeeze it in the budget. I'm looking at Tom Woods (http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html)' site, and if I'm not mistaken, there's a core charge of $400 that is added to the price of the SYE, but is refunded in full if you send him your old shaft and tail cone in good condition? Is that how it works?

Is there a way I can look at a U-joint and tell if it's bad? I crawled under the Jeep and tried to wiggle the drive shaft, but it wasn't budging or anything. It couldn't be the front ones, could it? Pardon my ignorance on the subject, this is all a learning experience for me.

.

[Purple People Eater]

To those who read This thread (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38025), you're aware of the problem I had with the crankshaft positioning sensor down in Mexico. After the mitch-anic replaced it for me, I haven't had a problem, so that's a good sign.

Regarding the vibration I've been feeling the past few months (see posts above), I've finally found the culprit. I've had a drop here, a drop there kind of transmission leak going on for a while, and though just enough to be a tad annoying, I've been putting it off due to the fact that the transmission has been fine, and I really don't want to face the bill of tranny work. Well, lesson learned. The slow leak has corroded the transmission mount to the point where it's hardly even attached to the vehicle (if at all :Wow1:), causing the vibration at the gas pedal at takeoff and going over bumps. The Jeep is currently at Napa getting all new seals and fluids and getting a new transmission mount. Hopefully that will hold me over as far as repairs go for a while... I wanna buy a fridge!!!

:ylsmoke:

[Purple People Eater]

If anybody knows of a gently used ARB front bumper for '97+, let me know...

[SWbySWesty]

Glad you found the culprit! Do you want the bumper or the fridge more? :D

[Purple People Eater]

Glad you found the culprit! Do you want the bumper or the fridge more? :D

In the past two months, I've bought a fridge and an ARB bumper for the Jeep. My girlfriend was getting jealous of my love affair so I took a trip to Tiffany & Co. today. It may be a while before I provide an update with any new goodies.

Ah, Hell, I'll probably buy a RTT soon. And a set of lights for those empty tabs on that huge piece of steel up front.

I've decided on researching an overland route to Omaha this summer. Any input there?

[kc0tma]

In Nebraska if you get up on Highway 2 (probably not, but worth it) there is the Halsey National Forest Bessey Ranger District. It started as a tree farm way out in the middle of the tree-less Nebraska sand hills and still operates as that. There is plenty of nice drives and during the warmer months there are fields of wild flowers, and a fire tower that they might let you borrow the key for. Being national forest camping is where ever you want, but there is the civilized camp ground with running water and everything at the main compound and then also the whitetail campground on the Dismal River which is a nice place to go because this time of year you probably won't see any other people. The road out to there is enough that cars usually don't make it, but it isn't bad enough to need 4x4, just sandy most of the way.

Then north of there on Highway 83 between Thedford and Valentine there is the Samual McKelvie National Forest\Valentine Wildlife Refuge. Its a bigger place to roam than Halsey NF but fewer trees and more lakes. And the lakes have pretty good fishing too. If you go in the summer though, be ready to pick thousands and thousands of ticks off of you.

[Purple People Eater]

My birthday is next week. Should I get sliders or Lightforces? Or something else...? :snorkel:

[mudbutt]

My birthday is next week. Should I get sliders or Lightforces? Or something else...? :snorkel:

Sliders.

Oh, Happy Birthday!:victory:

[ExpoMike]

Sliders without a doubt. Saved my bacon more than once.

[Maximus Ram]

Sliders...

[BIGdaddy]

One way to think about things is "what would end a trip to the store, to the outback, to the mtn's?"

To that end, my first mod was my front bumper. I tend to encounter San Diego's craziest drivers on a daily basis, and feared for my newly refreshed cooling system. I figured giving myself front tow points, and protecting my engine at the same time was a good expense.

For me a snorkel is a good mod, since I seem to seek out water whenever I can, but its low on the list compared to fixing my A/C, getting comfy seats, and new tires.

[FourByLand]

Where are the pics with the bumper and fridge install?

I vote sliders also. Happy Birthday!

[SWbySWesty]

Happy Birthday! Sliders - lights are a great mod, but no love without a glove (protection).

[BIGdaddy]

Happy Birthday! Sliders - lights are a great mod, but no love without a glove (protection).

:coffeedrink: thats funny, Garrett.

you guys really smack your rockers all that often?

most of the overland trucks you see from other countries doing the around the world thing, don't have sliders.

American thing?

I guess it probably just depends on where you're going.

[SWbySWesty]

You're right, but once you build it, sometimes it's cheaper and fun to go out with the "big boys" and their "toys" and show them what a camping rig can do. My last thing I need to do is my gas tank skid and then I'm all set for following along



and busting out the canopy, stove, and grilled cheeses for lunch when I do with a cold soda. Bam

[BIGdaddy]

You're right, but once you build it, sometimes it's cheaper and fun to go out with the "big boys" and their "toys" and show them what a camping rig can do. My last thing I need to do is my gas tank skid and then I'm all set for following along



and busting out the canopy, stove, and grilled cheeses for lunch when I do with a cold soda. Bam

haha! nice!

[Maximus Ram]

Goota remember that armour is not only good for offroad, but on road too
The nerf bars on the Dodge does the job offroad for rocks, but did an even better job at deflecting the drunk that tried to drive under it...if not for the bars, he may have went under and flipped us....sooo..always use protection..:victory:

[mudbutt]

you guys really smack your rockers all that often?


Depends on how agressive and or confident you are. The thing about sliders is, you probably won't realize you need them until AFTER you need them...

I hit the rocker on my F350 and only did a small amount of damage. But it was pretty ugly to look at and the door seal leaked after that.

If it's a bad enough hit, I guess it might even prevent the door from opening or closing properly.

That was one of the first mods I did to my XJ. Cost less than 100 bux for materials and a couple of afternoons with the welder. Pretty cheap insurance if you ask me....

[SWbySWesty]

I also stand on mine regularly....I use them to pull myself up and out from under the car when under it instead of sliding out on the ground, and of course, sometimes peace of mind has a price.

[Purple People Eater]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/GC%20OV%202010/DSCF2683.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/GC%20OV%202010/DSCF2682.jpg

AJ's sliders should be arriving at my door any day now. :sombrero:

[Purzell]

Fridge pics?
Camping set up deployed?
I'm working towards a similar set up.

[Purple People Eater]

Fridge pics?
Camping set up deployed?
I'm working towards a similar set up.

I haven't posted any fridge pics, due to the fact that I have no way of securing it. It's just sitting in the back, unimpressive.

[idaxj97]

your jeep is coming along quite nicely but..... you keep stealing my ideas for my cherokee, stop it. j/k

[SWbySWesty]

Jeep looks good! How is it having the RTT up there?

[upcruiser]

Nice, that is exactly how I'd want to build up an XJ. Looking good dude!

[Purple People Eater]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF2732.jpg

[SWbySWesty]

:clapsmile

[Purple People Eater]

I got my sliders on now. I went with AJ's. I like how they're barely noticeable, and don't stick out to bruise shins.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/DSCF2766.jpg

[Cody1771]

nice, always like the Jeeps, i helped a buddy build up his for overland, i stiched the awning myself as i have canvas experiance and a machine.... now to only make one for myself

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4593315639_2ac4b0bf95.jpg

[cshontz]

I'm jealous. We might have to turn this into a competition. You're clearly winning, though - as you are in fact USING your Jeep.

I have lower miles! So... n'yah!!!

[njjeepthing]

I'm jealous. We might have to turn this into a competition. You're clearly winning, though - as you are in fact USING your Jeep.

I have lower miles! So... n'yah!!!

I have lower miles than you so n'yah........

[kc0tma]

I got all yall beat at about 152,000 on my '99 XJ!

[Sangster]

Nice Jeep!

[Purzell]

So...what do you think? Has the roof tent been worth it over the ground tent? The Jeep looks great, by the way. I like those sliders.

[Purple People Eater]

So...what do you think? Has the roof tent been worth it over the ground tent? The Jeep looks great, by the way. I like those sliders.

It's glorious when I'm using it. It's so nice to have a level, even sleeping surface with decent padding. But when I'm not using it, it's a sail and a slight burden. Luckily, I preserve my in-town miles as I have a 4 mile commute to work, so I've delayed the need to remove it in between trips. I'm not able to park in the garage anymore because of the height, which reminds me that I need to clean out the garage so I can find the motivation to remove the tent...

I've put about 12 nights in the tent in about 2 1/2 months, which I think is a fair ratio. I'm working on a way of storing it elevated for respect of the product as well as easy transport on and off the Jeep. I'm simply not satisfied leaning it up against the wall or just laying it on the ground. In the words of Ferris Beuller, "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

[The Adam Blaster]

I haven't read your whole thread, but have you thougt about making some sort of fairing in the front of the RTT to help direct the airflow over it?

[Purple People Eater]

I'm jealous. We might have to turn this into a competition. You're clearly winning, though - as you are in fact USING your Jeep.

I have lower miles! So... n'yah!!!

I have air conditioning. NANNERS.

[SWbySWesty]

~190,000 miles, fresh redone AC.

For my next trick...

[cshontz]

I have air conditioning. NANNERS.

I hate you.

[DT75FLH]

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I'm working on a way of storing it elevated for respect of the product as well as easy transport on and off the Jeep. I'm simply not satisfied leaning it up against the wall or just laying it on the ground. In the words of Ferris Beuller, "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."[/QUOTE]

you could rig up a lift like the jeep guys have to hold there hard tops up in the ceiling.

or make on e out of 1" thin wall box tubing, and some j hooks.

[Purple People Eater]

So, on my way home tonight, I went over a speed bump and heard a rattle, like loose chains dangling together. About a mile later, I hit a bump in the road and heard (and felt) a loud Crash Bang!. I freaked out a little, and looked in my rear view mirror to find something missing... My spare tire fell off my bumper! I usually have it padlocked on, but a couple weeks ago I removed it while detailing the Jeep. Apparently I did a less than stellar job putting it back on because the twist on thingy that holds the spare on worked it's way off (the initial rattle, the sound of the steel hitting the pavement). All it took was some acceleration and a bump and there you have it. I thank my lucky stars nobody was behind me, considering it happened on a pretty busy street in Tempe. A 60 lb. tire/wheel would not look good buried in the hood of a Lexus. I recovered all the parts, and reinstated the padlock.

Lesson learned. Complete user error, I'm not at all angry with the bumper. Still, totally lame, and embarrassing...

[SWbySWesty]

Nice lesson. My spare is locked to the swingout to prevent theft and this situation. Can never be too safe.

[alexfm]

I hate you.

As do I. :sombrero:

[FourByLand]

So, on my way home tonight, I went over a speed bump and heard a rattle, like loose chains dangling together. About a mile later, I hit a bump in the road and heard (and felt) a loud Crash Bang!. I freaked out a little, and looked in my rear view mirror to find something missing... My spare tire fell off my bumper! I usually have it padlocked on, but a couple weeks ago I removed it while detailing the Jeep. Apparently I did a less than stellar job putting it back on because the twist on thingy that holds the spare on worked it's way off (the initial rattle, the sound of the steel hitting the pavement). All it took was some acceleration and a bump and there you have it. I thank my lucky stars nobody was behind me, considering it happened on a pretty busy street in Tempe. A 60 lb. tire/wheel would not look good buried in the hood of a Lexus. I recovered all the parts, and reinstated the padlock.

Lesson learned. Complete user error, I'm not at all angry with the bumper. Still, totally lame, and embarrassing...

Pretty lame.

Check your stuff as I do not want to be following you only to swerve into someone else to avoid your spare tire and twist on thingy.

[Purple People Eater]

Pretty lame.

Check your stuff as I do not want to be following you only to swerve into someone else to avoid your spare tire and twist on thingy.

Trail time in October. Promise.

[FourByLand]

I don't believe you!

How's your new job?

[Purple People Eater]

I don't believe you!

How's your new job?

I start training on the 9th. They sure aren't in a hurry to get us started...

[Purple People Eater]

Ummmm.....

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/67241_439594007547_542122547_5420574_823569_n.jpg

[Purzell]

So, how much is it? Only the best color ever.

[Purple People Eater]

So, how much is it? Only the best color ever.

It cost me whatever it costs to tow it home.

Free is my favorite number.

[kc0tma]

Too late, I already air lifted it out and set it down in my driveway. :sombrero:

[Maximus Ram]

NIce..what needs to be done to it ?

[Purple People Eater]

NIce..what needs to be done to it ?

Everything. This will be a several year project. It's been sitting for ten years, but I hope the 2f is in decent shape. I'm acquiring it from a family friend, to 'keep it in the family'.

[SWbySWesty]

hmmmm, sounds like a familiar story. Non-running vehicle given away...well look at that! Congrats!

[Purzell]

Free Landcruiser sitting in nice dry Arizona. That kind of stuff NEVER happens to me. You will have a blast with that!

[Purple People Eater]

Free Landcruiser sitting in nice dry Arizona. That kind of stuff NEVER happens to me. You will have a blast with that!

You mean frigid, cold, abusive Wyoming?

[Purzell]

Free Landcruiser sitting anywhere. That never happens to me. :ylsmoke:

[Purple People Eater]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/IMG_3549.jpg

[idaxj97]

i guess i missed it in your thread but is you arb bumper a 84-96 bumper.

[Purple People Eater]

i guess i missed it in your thread but is you arb bumper a 84-96 bumper.

Yes. I bought it used for a screamin' deal, and I don't mind the little void.

[Purple People Eater]

I'm thinking about selling this thing. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and I love it, but I'm finding myself drooling over the 80 series LC recently. I'm not necessarily putting it up for sale just yet, but if someone wanted it bad enough to make me an offer I couldn't refuse, well... :ylsmoke:

[S Gilbert]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bobby51987/IMG_3549.jpg

You have built almost exactly what I have in mind, with the exception of a snorkel. Thanks for sharing.